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andriy voronin liverpools modern day nicky tanner any of our youths/reserves would offer more


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Thats a bit unfair on Nicky wink


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ngog was a rafa buy for the first team so has to be put as a player in the same sense as babel and voronin - ie a first team player not a youth teamer and lucas is the same

insua you can't count as he only played him because both aurelio and dossena were out injured

kelly played because johnson and degen were out .... carra is not a right back and was needed in the centre anyway

he plays kids because he is forced to - what is needed is kids getting games because he has faith in them - that is how they gain confidence and improve more quickly

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Originally Posted By: Rafarendum
Oh I think I see what you're saying now. He only gives them the initial chance if he has someone else. If that is what you are saying then you are right I think. I thought you meant chance as in, kept them in the side if they proved to be decent. I think Insua as you say got his initial chance because of injuries, but once he proved his worth, I don't think Rafa has any problems playing a youngster.


if you mean when he has no one else then yes that is what i mean ..... kids shouldn't have to prove their worth in the first team to begin with - there is the odd one who has instant success - but mostly it is about finding their feet and adjusting to the pace and passion of the game ...... they should be treated like foreign players first arriving in the prem - you expect them to struggle for at least 6 months as they settle in and kids are the same ..... they need to build confidence and to feel like a proper part of the team rather than just a desperation measure

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should give pacheco at least a place bench could see him turning ferdinand inside out in last 20 mins (if needed ) the problem with him hes is so much ahead of rest of reserve team he would benefit from playing at a higher level

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