KopTalk.com Forums Football Liverpool FC Forum It just occured to me watching MOTD.....

Robbie Keane - Plays well for Villa, scores 2, almost had a hat-trick. Looks very sharp. Benitez bought and Benitez sold.

Stephen Warnock - Came on at half time at left back, changed the game for Villa. Improved the defense. Stopped the rut. Came through our youth, Benitez sold.

Jermaine Pennant - On as sub for Stoke, creates a goal from a free kick. Benitez bought, Benitez sold.

Danny Murphy - Scores for Fulham from the spot, always played well for us, Benitez sold.

John Arne Risse - Also played for Fulham. Houllier signing, Benitez sold.

Danny Guthrie - Scores for Newcastle in the same game vs Fulham. Brilliant goal. Came through our youth, Benitez sold.

David Ngog - Plays and plays well for Bolton against us. Benitez bought in, Dalglish sells.

Daniel Ayala - Plays for Norwich, plays well against Chelsea. Benitez bought in/youth team, Dalglish sells.

Are they honestly any worse than what we have now?

Look at the focus at the moment on Andy Carroll, remember when the focus was on Robbie Keane a few years back? Remember, when he went a while without a goal?

Look at all the sh*t he got for that, but it really is NOTHING compared to what we are seeing now with Andy Carroll looking back.

I don't think any of the players mentioned, or out of the ones we have now, (bar maybe 3) are any special.

But surely the players, if not some, mentioned are better than some of the ones we have now, or at the moment at least.

They are producing and have produced today for their clubs.

What have our players produced today?

Oh and Peter Crouch who arguably offers a better target man option than Carroll does. Because he can play the ball on the deck.

Unlike pony tail, who honestly looks foreign to the football, when the ball is on the deck rolling to him.

Just imagine when he hits mid 30's and he looses a yard of pace.

Ha!

Yip, good point...I have to say that I have a lot of respect for players like Robbie Keane and would have really liked to see him do well at the club. It makes you wonder why it didn't work out for him at liverpool when he performs well everywhere else he plays! Could do with him now, at least you know you would get 110%.
I'm all for giving players a chance to bed into a new club etc, but the times I have seen Carroll, I don't see the effort, that 110%, busting a gut to close down, run into space, gamble whilst attacking balls in from set pieces etc. I get so frustrated, an opposition defender can be 10 yards away with the ball and he wont press...
Just to make a point that I have similar views on other players that were the red shirt just now but im not going to go into them all. Sometimes I think im watching old men playing 5's...

The thing with Carroll is which REALLY annoys me....and I don't think it is down to him at all. It is all down to management.

Is coming back for corners SIMPLY BECAUSE he is 6'4.

What happens when Reina quickly catches the ball and looks for a quick option up field?

It happened today, Carroll came back for a corner. Reina got the ball and dished it out super quick down field to Maxi, who then proceeded to head the ball down to his own hand in the box....of course. LMFAO.

The game today was laughable, in fact, I'd watch the game again to laugh at. Was this game even real at all? The players were walking jokes half asleep (or should I say, deep asleep)

Players falling over themselves, bumping into one another.

Uh?

I thought you were gonna say "when he has lost his pony tail"!

I might agree with Pennant because he is a great right winger but the rest deserved to go.

I think Murphy would have been a great player still with us! Riise too tbh!

The others well, the pressure told or they couldn't step their game up or the managers were just blind!

We can't make the mistake now! Got to work hard with what you got and that means the management working harder with Carroll but with all the people to help him.

It doesn't matter whether they are performing for their current club or not, what matters is what they were doing for us and as most were not performing they were rightly sold.

Keane was never going robe a success as Rafa was against him from day one. He scores vs Newcastle and is dropped

N'Gog was crap and he has been crap for Bolton, he missed an easy half volley yesterday how many times did he do that for us.

The only one I'd have happily kept was Murphy but at the time he was not playing and rightly wanted first team football.

Whilst we're all having a good moan and Keane cropped up, what the fu** is it with Liverpool and not finding a Wenger like forward who can actually run like a 100m runner? I mean really is it that Fu** ing hard? I get the impression we don't see it as even necessary, I mean Carroll FFS, no I'll stop, been down that track a million times from day 1.

For every Henry/RVP & Anelka Wenger has unearthed he has bought three of four other duds, look at Chamakh, Arshavin & Gervinho.

He hasn't unearthed a diamond for a long time now.

Clubs are wise to it and make sure they hold onto their assets now, or make you pay way over the odds.

You will never find an Anelka or RVP for that price ever again.