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Basically we need a goal scorer and a fan base that's not so fickle. A draw and king kennys head is on the block? It's just the same usual suspects, deakin. Half of them haven't been seen in here for weeks. They've suddenly woken up again cos they've something to cry and bitch about again. Very ugly trait. Fair enough, I'm new here, but are you honestly satisfied with our position at the moment? I don't know how we can make this any clearer. We have fewer goals this season than Bolton and Blackburn. I'm sorry, but that's not good enough, not by a long shot, and not after we invested £100 million this summer on mediocrity simply because they speak English. Sure, we're still in the midst of a rebuilding process but top 4 was our aim for this year if I'm not mistaken and we're certainly not going to achieve that by grinding out home draws to mid-table teams. The areas of the team that we need to strengthen are seemingly obvious to everyone but Kenny. I'm certainly not saying sack him - not even close. I don't think anyone is really calling for his head, I just think that people are a bit frustrated. But I think he needs to wake up and realize that a new perspective is needed, because it ain't 1986 anymore. This is what I don't get - why do you think that I disagree with what you're saying??
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Apologies, I didn't mean to come across so defensive. It's the internet - without a way to communicate tone, everything just comes across as kind of angry. Plus I'm used to getting blasted on Twitter for daring to have an opinion that questions the current regime.
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Fair enough, I'm new here, but are you honestly satisfied with our position at the moment? I don't know how we can make this any clearer. We have fewer goals this season than Bolton and Blackburn. I'm sorry, but that's not good enough, not by a long shot, and not after we invested £100 million this summer on mediocrity simply because they speak English. Sure, we're still in the midst of a rebuilding process but top 4 was our aim for this year if I'm not mistaken and we're certainly not going to achieve that by grinding out home draws to mid-table teams.
Couldn't asgree more I simply cannot understand the likes if Bar Lennon who certainly imply that we are in a satisfactory position with regards to the league and buy Kenny's spin that all we need is a little more luck Bottom line is we need better players, bit even if we buy Bar's belief that the players are good enough, we need a manager who can get the best of them - and whatever our position on Kenny as manager, he's nbot doing that at the moment My own belief - and one I stated the day he joined - is that we can forget about even trying to get into the top with Mr Comoli at the helm - his transfers are so bad in every aspect he'll ensure we never get their What attracted our owners to a man with a proven track record of failure is beyond me Whoever identified the likes of Henderson and Downing as our saviours (let's not even get into Carroll) - as they must have done to stump up the horrendous amount of cash these players cost - doesn't deserve to be at Liverpool football club Whether that person is Kenny or Comoli is a moot point but how the f*** can any Liverpool fan try and get positives from sterile draws against the likes of Wigan, Blackburn (both in the bottom 3 when we played them), Swansea, Norwich, Sunderland and now Stoke It points to a failure of player, manager, club, and fan and thoser fans who think the current situation is acceptable shoulkd hang their heads in shame
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Apologies, I didn't mean to come across so defensive. It's the internet - without a way to communicate tone, everything just comes across as kind of angry. Plus I'm used to getting blasted on Twitter for daring to have an opinion that questions the current regime. No, don't be silly, you didn't come across that way at all - I just mean that I agree with everything you said. Just because I think people calling for the manager's head (are there ARE some here that are) are pathetic, does not mean that I'm delighted with our results this season, with Kenny's selections/tactics in certain games, and with the form of some of his signings. To conclude one as a result of the other is just utter bullsh*t, and tbh, pure thickness on the part of anyone who does so.
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Couldn't asgree more
I simply cannot understand the likes if Bar Lennon who certainly imply that we are in a satisfactory position with regards to the league and buy Kenny's spin that all we need is a little more luck
Bottom line is we need better players, bit even if we buy Bar's belief that the players are good enough, we need a manager who can get the best of them - and whatever our position on Kenny as manager, he's nbot doing that at the moment
Whoever identified the likes of Henderson and Downing as our saviours (let's not even get into Carroll) - as they must have done to stump up the horrendous amount of cash these players cost - doesn't deserve to be at Liverpool football club
It points to a failure of player, manager, club, and fan and thoser fans who think the current situation is acceptable shoulkd hang their heads in shame Just reading this now - and once again another person proving the point of exactly what I said in my last post. Where have I said any of these things you're alleging?? Complete and utter fantasies as a result of being caught up in your own agendas and bitterness.
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Fair enough, I'm new here, but are you honestly satisfied with our position at the moment? I don't know how we can make this any clearer. We have fewer goals this season than Bolton and Blackburn. I'm sorry, but that's not good enough, not by a long shot, and not after we invested £100 million this summer on mediocrity simply because they speak English. Sure, we're still in the midst of a rebuilding process but top 4 was our aim for this year if I'm not mistaken and we're certainly not going to achieve that by grinding out home draws to mid-table teams.
Couldn't asgree more I simply cannot understand the likes if Bar Lennon who certainly imply that we are in a satisfactory position with regards to the league and buy Kenny's spin that all we need is a little more luck Bottom line is we need better players, bit even if we buy Bar's belief that the players are good enough, we need a manager who can get the best of them - and whatever our position on Kenny as manager, he's nbot doing that at the moment My own belief - and one I stated the day he joined - is that we can forget about even trying to get into the top with Mr Comoli at the helm - his transfers are so bad in every aspect he'll ensure we never get their What attracted our owners to a man with a proven track record of failure is beyond me Whoever identified the likes of Henderson and Downing as our saviours (let's not even get into Carroll) - as they must have done to stump up the horrendous amount of cash these players cost - doesn't deserve to be at Liverpool football club Whether that person is Kenny or Comoli is a moot point but how the f*** can any Liverpool fan try and get positives from sterile draws against the likes of Wigan, Blackburn (both in the bottom 3 when we played them), Swansea, Norwich, Sunderland and now Stoke It points to a failure of player, manager, club, and fan and thoser fans who think the current situation is acceptable shoulkd hang their heads in shame half way through a season 5 points of fourth. Should have beat both mancs at home, unfortunate in both games. Beat chelsea and arsenal, semi final in the cup , second huge cup game to come, every team in the league drawing or losing to so called 'lesser opposition'. Hang Your Head In Shame.Or better still Sky worshippers 'Take A bow Son, take a bow A bow'
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It's not so much the results themselves that are bothering people - because you're right, for every poor game against Stoke and Blackburn, we've had an excellent result against Chelsea or City - it's the fact that our attacking play is so poor and many (if not most) of our players have been playing beneath their potential. Our deficiencies are so glaringly obvious to anyone with half a brain it's frankly shocking that they haven't been addressed properly. If we had a player who could finish chances, those 0-0 and 1-1 draws could have been 3 points rather than 1. If we had wingers with pace and skill, Carroll would have more balls on his noggin rather than at his feet, and probably a couple more goals as a result. If we had a midfielder (other than Gerrard) to provide a creative spark, our strikers and wingers would get better service, and round and round we go. Like people have said, we've done OK, but we can't be satisfied with 5 points off 4th place because we can and should be doing better.
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+1.
i think a little spark or 2 or 3 is needed, to kick start our season from now, until the end and that spark that i am talking about is ie....
2/3 quality players are needed, this month, ie winger, centre mid, striker,
KD to stop messing about with the starting 11 selection, formations etc etc, KD to stick with a 442, 4411 system.
time for downing to be played as a left winger only, and adam, carroll to step up to to the plate and start playing well, run of games, is wat they need
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It's not so much the results themselves that are bothering people - because you're right, for every poor game against Stoke and Blackburn, we've had an excellent result against Chelsea or City - it's the fact that our attacking play is so poor and many (if not most) of our players have been playing beneath their potential. Our deficiencies are so glaringly obvious to anyone with half a brain it's frankly shocking that they haven't been addressed properly. If we had a player who could finish chances, those 0-0 and 1-1 draws could have been 3 points rather than 1. If we had wingers with pace and skill, Carroll would have more balls on his noggin rather than at his feet, and probably a couple more goals as a result. If we had a midfielder (other than Gerrard) to provide a creative spark, our strikers and wingers would get better service, and round and round we go. Like people have said, we've done OK, but we can't be satisfied with 5 points off 4th place because we can and should be doing better. Very good post well balanced and fair. I highlight the we have done ok. Anyone who knows anything about the culture and history of Liverpool football club knows doing OK is simply not good enough. Of course things take time to gell and we have been playing some decent football at times. But the worry for me and we keep returning to it is that Kenny's signings have been a disaster with exception of Enrique. The problem that brings is how much more money will the owbers trust him with and once they lose faith in that area its the end game.
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stanely agree with u,
KD spent 100m Plus in the summer and if he trys and looks around, i think he can sign 3 quality players, plus a player on loan, for about 20m max,this month, so spending 100m and another 20m is neither here or their.
i still believe if KD signs 3 quality players this month, that can go straight into the starting 11, i think the team will take off, cuzz the midfield will be balanced, with pace n goals and our strikers will start scoring.
has KD got the funds from the owners, to take this gamble and make or break the season and his rep???
only time will tell
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