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I'm sure we'd all like to see young players coming through, but we shouldn't underestimate the gulf between reserve/academy football and the Premier League.
At the moment, Sterling, Suso etc are playing against lads their own age, many of whom will be destined for lower or non-league football. It's one thing for Sterling, say, to skin a 17-year-old full-back who may end up plying his trade in the Conference, it's quite another to have the beating of a defender with the knowhow that years of top flight experience brings.
To bridge this gap, I feel we should be loaning young players to Championship clubs. Recent evidence suggests that players who can thrive at that level (Spearing, Shelvey) have every chance of progressing to the first team squad, while those loaned to League One or Two clubs (Tom Ince, Nathan Eccleston, Stephen Darby) won't be good enough for the Premier League.
Bearing this in mind, should we be looking to develop a closer relationship with Blackpool? Dalglish gets on well with Ian Holloway, Blackpool play good football and it's only an hour up the road, so that's a few boxes ticked.
I think this could be a better option than pitching them in at the deep end. Anyone agree?

Can't argue with most of what's already said in this thread. However I generally support Kenny and have previously referred to Fergie's start at Man U, they stuck with him for three years and see how they were rewarded, so I don't want to be lumped in with the Kenny bashers. Having said that however, I do hold Kenny mainly, but not totally responsible for yesterdays debacle. By selecting five defenders I believe he inadvertently sent out the wrong message to his players. No disrespect to Stoke, a diffucult side to beat, but I don't understand why he selected five defenders in a home game against what is still a mid table side, unless he was experimenting with a view to the cup game against City, If he was I sincerely hope he is cured of any such foolishness now. Not one LFC player can take any credit from yesterdays performance, they were dire in the extreme, not one good touch, pass, tackle, block or attempt on goal, nothing, absolutely nothing! They looked like a bunch of cart horses trying to perform in the Aintree grand national! Too slow in the build up too sluggish in the tackle, when they made one and too incompetent when shooting, when they made an effort. Whats the answer? Stop making excuses for them for a start, most of them are international players. They must be left in no doubt that their performances are unacceptable to LFC. That they are not giving 100% or near it. and for the Bolton game I would bench four or five of them or drop them with a warning, and bring in the young reserve players. Its time to put down a marker to many of these hangers on.

We never loaned the likes of Gerrard, Owen & Fowler out.

I'm sure our coaches would know if they could step up and anyway if they fail it doesn't matter as we're doing fook all at the moment anyway.

True, but those players were exceptional and that was a different era anyway. Spearing and Shelvey benefited from going on loan and, elsewhere in the Premier League, so have Wilshere, Sturridge and Welbeck.

The part in bold is rubbish, it's got nothing to do with era. If your good enough, your good enough.

Our youth team won the FA youth cup a few years back now. The only player to have come through that team and make the fringes of the first team (only till recent has he started playing more regularly) is Jay Spearing.

This was when those players you have all mentioned were playing for the youth teams. We won the cup that year and made most of those teams look average.

Spearing was in the reserves for a long while after that, went out on loan and only really got a game under Dalglish.

We also had a player called Adam Hammill (now at Wolves) he WAS good enough. A skill full winger the likes of which we've never really seen come threw our academy. Never even got a look in and was probably the best player out of the entire team that won the cup. Went of on loan to championship clubs, moved on, now at Wolves.

I see that as a huge disappointment and opportunity missed by Liverpool.

Our youth team hasn't reached those heights since, but the individual players are much much much much better.

If you are good enough, your good enough. It's all well and saying "They need time, they need to go on loan, they need games in the reserves" none of this was relevant to. Wayne Rooney, Steven Gerrard, Robbie Fowler, Michael Owen, Alan Shearer, Messi, Brazilian Ronaldo, Portugal Ronaldo, Ronaldinho.

You can say it was a different era all you like, these players were thrown in young and all turned into some of the finest footballers of this generation. None of these would have been where they are today, had they slugged it out in mediocre reserve team football or on loan to several 1st division clubs. It doesn't work like that. I can understand 1 loan out, 2 maximum, but the majority of the time it's more than that, even extensions to loans. They ain't got a chance the moment they start getting loaned out like that.

We're seeing it now with a few youngsters at Liverpool being loaned out. Namely David Amoo and Daniel Ayala etc etc