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Change the tune, we've heard it all before!

This will be a long'n so if you don't want to read it all, please don't comment.

Can't some of you see that apart from 1 season (in 09) in all the seasons gone by, since we last won the league, that we have been mainly the same, in the same rut. All along? Apart from a few glimpses here and there....

We've thrown money at more players, we've had the managers, we've even had THE KING return and I don't think at the time he returned, any of you didn't want it. Most of us called for him, when Benitez went.

I feel over the years, we have spent money on the WRONG players, but I also feel it is down to PROFESSIONAL footballers on £50,000 to £150,000 to get the job f*cking done! We shouldn't forget that or distance ourselves from it!.....EVER

Yes, Kenny played a unusual formation (being at home n'all) and to a certain extent I can agree with the discontent regarding that, especially against Stoke (take nothing away from them, they can play football how they jolly well want to!) and knowing how they would play.

It's up to us, regardless of opposition. Stoke, Bolton or Barcelona, it's about us and how we effect the game. Do you REALLY want it enough?...Proove it!

Some people questioned the starting line up, but ONCE AGAIN it is down to the players ultimately to go out there and get the results, the results they are paid to get! If they can't do it under Dalglish, they never will do it, as far as I'm concerned.

The excuses under Hodgson were given, left right and center and rightly so in some parts. I agree. But It's hard to find excuses now, Mr. Gerrard and co.!!!!

Kenny has already kicked his footballs, done his time and hung up his boots. He picks the team, it's up to them to perform and rise. It's up to them (AND RIGHTFULLY EXPECTED) for them to step up to the plate and adjust to any formation, tactic, position or instruction. That's what they get paid in bucket loads, to do people!

This is what they've been doing since kids remember, given all the best resources by professional football clubs in order to perform at the highest level.

Nothings changed and will change until EVERY player wearing the Liverpool shirt today, books there f*cking ideas up!

If you don't want to be good enough or even have the ability in the first place or even try. Then goodnight Vienna!

"We need goals, we need goals, we need goals" It's become common and general consensus between every one around the club that we're not scoring enough.

- Andy Carroll, clearly isn't supported or motivated enough ON THE PITCH by Dalglish (as much as they can make out, off it!) and the players we have don't play around him properly or to his strengths either. So it won't work (as much as we all want it to for Carroll) UNTIL all those things come into place.

- Downing, was brought in as one of the best crosser's in the premier league, he prefers to play right side being left footed, when played on either flank, the supply is never there or good enough by him.

- Charlie Adam, loves his fancy cross field/sideways 50/50 Hollywood balls, I thought he was supposed to be brilliant at set-pieces to? What one in every fifty? He can't even get the ball past the first man!

- Henderson, I don't know what to think yet. Not overly impressed at all.

- Enrique, has been absolutely fantastic, I don't have a bad word to say about him to be honest. Gives 110% every game, busts a gut to get forward and busts a gut to defend. Strong, fast, skill full. Performing to the best of his ability and more, this is all we ask for.

What I don't understand and WOULD question management on is, that there is a lad sat in the reserves/youth team, prolific at youth level. A goalscorers goalscorer, scores goals for fun, local lad, stands out from the rest and against any opposition. Funnily enough it sounds mighty like a few other strikers we've had, who've gone onto score many goals for the first team from the youth team, does it not?

Robbie Fowler
Michael Owen
Steven Gerrard
Adam Morgan?

I sometimes wonder where Michael Owen, Robbie Fowler and Steven Gerrard magically appeared from, I dont remember us forking out £35m for them from somewhere else?

No we give them the chance....and they all took it.

If we don't give our youth team promise a chance, we will never find out, will we?

I'm upset, to be honest with you all, because I honestly feel like the players are letting us down. Big time. I really do.

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Very good post- I am suprised by a lot of thr rubbish posted on here today by amnesiacs/stooges / illegal aliens and general wind up merchants
last yr we were 12th at this stage
2 cup ties coming up - players subconciously (or not) resting for the other matches

charlie adam is sh1t
downing is temporary
sell ac to chelsea

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We all wanted the King to return did we ? you sure about that?

Yes a lot did but also many thought he was the wrong choice both from his track record and the fact he had been out of football for so long.


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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
We all wanted the King to return did we ? you sure about that?

Yes a lot did but also many thought he was the wrong choice both from his track record and the fact he had been out of football for so long.



The whole "out of football for so long" thing was whipped up mainly by the media was it not? The same media that forgot all about that when we "played well"

One thing we lacked under Benitez for instance was man management, someone who would put a arm around Ryan Babel and give him a kick up the arse when need be. Yes he was tactical, yes he was stubborn. But what he wasn't was a great man manager.

What I'm seeing with Dalglish is the thing we wanted back then. But it's almost like these professional footballers have forgotten that they are professional footballers getting paid money we would all dream for.

You know, I have to question the players, do they want it enough? Because I just don't see it on the pitch, yes all the talk of it...but what about on it? Do they take it seriously enough? Do they make sure they get an early night before a game.

Or are they sat on the Xbox till early hours of the morning?

I mean today, we had players standing still, bumping into one another the lot. Almost like they were all half a sleep. No want. No fight. No will.

No player is void of criticism and even Mr Gerrard with his new guaranteed 5 year contract £150,000+ a week, and assurances of ambassador status when it's all said and done was [oops] poor today....and I mean that.

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Craney I understand where you are coming from with the players. But multi millionaire footballers are part of the modern game and were so long before Dalglish came back. The job is what it is and the buck (unfortunetly) stops with the manager.


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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
Craney I understand where you are coming from with the players. But multi millionaire footballers are part of the modern game and were so long before Dalglish came back. The job is what it is and the buck (unfortunetly) stops with the manager.


I know that mate. It's wrong in some instances but understandable in others.

Who else could come in and do a better job with these players, playing like they did today?

In fact I know who. But he ain't around no more.

"Since I've come here to Liverpool and to Anfield I've drummed it into our players time and again that they're privileged to play for you! If they didn't believe me, they believe me now."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uc_XSdOLFSU

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I dont need to look at the utube craney its Shanks.

And yes you are right god do we need someone like him now.


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He's the core definition of the word "legend"!

Oh, how I wish we had someone like him on board the ship today!

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Sadly, this country doesn't produce men of Shankly's calibre any more. But I don't think we need to be too negative. The back four is solid, could stay together for another 3-4 years and has a strong set of young understudies (Flanagan-Kelly-Coates-Robinson). Plus, Gerrard and Suarez have hardly ever been on the same pitch together. We have a long way to go, but Dalglish is six months into what was widely acknowledged to be a three-year restoration job. We knew there would be setbacks, and those setbacks have generally been sloppy draws rather than humiliating defeats. We're not yet out of anything we were (realistically) competing for in August.

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Apart from the line on Gerrard i agree with you on the points about the team not wanting the win enough,Ive felt for months that the team haven't got any characters who will take the game by the neck and force the win,show grit and determination when needed or to put it another way we have no leader(s)I wondered if it was because its a new team that's being built or maybe some are just too young to make an impression yet either way its lacking, which is why I disagreed with the Gerrard comment because he has single handedly won us games at times it seems,even his return this time round we all seen the difference in the attitude of the side,sadly he cant do it every game nor completely on his own,someone in our team has to show some dominance on the pitch soon it wont solve the tactical problems etc but will go along way to help spark the right attitude needed by the whole team.


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