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i would say playing defensive has been there all season mate

i think you would be mad to defend that tactical setup

sorry kenny you must take the blame for that dire display once again , 7 drawn games at home and today one shot on goal sorenson was not man of the match , i think we should get this 4th business out of our minds if it happens great i dont think it will and have never5 thought it would , but do think liverpool are a cup team .

We had our eyes on a different prize , management and players imo

I don't defend the tactical set up but I am not knocking it either.. If downing stopped acting like a little boy and did his job he would average more than one useful cross a game which he currently averages at. Raheem Sterling would put him to shame and I would love to see him getting a run out at anfield.
Adam, who is let's face it cràp and who i never wanted at the club- if he could tackle or even run it would be a start.
Then there is AC . So, if we don't get 4th i blame KD (as when he took over lfc knocked out wins but can't do it after 100m plus spent?) I don't blame the tactics, i blame the sh1t performances of the sh1t players he has brought in

it wont happen because fools like you think the carling cup is more important and kenny seems to be listening to yas.
shocking

Gerrard is not exactly a box to box player at the moment as he is recovering from injury. If he had been playing today at even 60 percent of his abilities he would have scored a goal on his own like he has been doing for the last 10 years to save lfc in these sitations.

Charlie Adam sits too deep cos he doesnt know what else to do. He cannot run into the box and intercept a pass, he can only do one thing and that is the long diagonal pass (yawn).

As a footballer he lacks intelligence, hence the stupid free kicks he gives away, and the dead ball situations that he messes up.
We havent had a winger since jon barnes and its thanks to KD that we have one . Just a shame he brought one that blows hot and cold. Even the villa fans thought they were well shot of him in relation to the 20 million or so they received for him.


Sorry have to disagree on the second section of your post as well for pretty much the same reasons. KD's responsibe cos he brought in these players (I was referring to the ones KD has signed after the recovery lfc had at the end of last season without any money spent by KD). Because downing adam and AC are 'underperforming' doesnt mean this is because of tactics could be a number of reasons. AC's case is certainly psyhcological, he wants the ball passed to his feet or landed in perfect position on his forehead or he's not interested. Adam isnt underperforming in fact hes performing exactly the same as at blackpoool except at black pool he was the 'lynchpin' of a mediocre team. Now he's not, he's had to step up and he's been found out. Most people would rather have spearing than him.

3 bad buys is enough to mess up any team. Dont see what it had to do with tactics 5 at the back could have worked if they had run in to the box more. Why didnt they ?(KD's fault) Doubt it myself AC has a habit of drifting into the centre circle (even when the ball is near the other teams box!) Adam as I said cannot / will not run and downing does one good cross a game and cannnot beat someone with a ball. Use those tactics of today with players on form and they would have got goals. Kuyt is another one , a five year old kid would have scored that header he missed. Is that KDs fault too? We would all want a 442 tearing into stoke but bearing in mind we have no suarez and no flair better to sit back and try and try and force stoke to come onto LFC. OK it didnt work proof no goals scored but a 442 would have produced more goals ? I am no so sure

Simple Not all is KD's fault

Agreed. I always saw Adam as a short-term solution, not sure why KK is determined to fit him in the team somewhere. We could move him on in the summer for a profit.

Downing and Henderson will come good, esp the latter. Lucas and Gerrard are obvisouly 1st choice midfield but have barely played together. Hendo I see learning from SG and taking the reigns in a few years time.

"And we need a midfielder in the Silva/Modric mode that can do the unexpected." - I think every team needs that, not so easy to come by though.

Hopefully Kuyt, Adam, Aquilani sold in the summer and we have some serious money to spend on forward options. Most probably Carrol will be moved on.

Looking worrying like 6th. The only positive is we have spurs, arsenal and chelsea to come to Anfield I think. I think Henry might pull the trigger if that's the case. Interesting to see if we actually buy anyone this window.

Did not see the game today, however I looked at the match reports and stat. Why were we playing a 5 man defence? this in not a two legged match where away goals apply is it.

This was a PL game! We simply need 3 points as often as possible!