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Originally Posted By: Desh
First things first would all of you of prefered for Kenny to play the likes of Kelly, Spearo, Sterling etc and have rested Suarez Gerrard, agger skrtel in the carling cup when we played Chelsea away then there would be zero talk of wembley at the moment and Suarez would be banned for 2 more league games.

The bottom line is this season the pririty is 1 torphy and top 4, over the last few years clubs going for 4th have had to win 1 trophy in order to boast the standing of the club worldwide to attract better names for the 4th place push.

Last season city got the Fa cup, few seasons back Spurs got Carling cup, last season Arse tried and failed for Carling cup.

And all the people saying Kenny should play Robinson or Wisdom or Morgan think about you'd they would replace in the team. How would you feel if you were Kuyt, or Carroll if Morgan was given a starting place above you or started on the bench while you weren't even in the starting 18. I'm certain if we had an injury crisis or were short on numbers like we were last season then they would have played more, like flnno and robinson did but we have 2 players in every position for the first time in ages.

And touch wood we haven't had any injuries in 2 of the same positions yet this season.

e.g before Lucas got injured Spearo had only played 2 matches in about 23 games with both being in the Carling cup as Lucas played every league game before his injury.


only have to look at the embarassment against Northampton last year to see putting in youth players as a group is a disaster. An occasional youth is good when mixed with better and more experienced players. For players to gro they need gentle steps up. Moving to Melwood, then reserves, then 1st team squad, then bench. Each time they taste something new they become more familier and comfortable with the situation.

Nearly every prodigy seems to have major injuries mid career -Fowler, Owen, Fabregas, Wilshire, all have had bad injuries. I remember reading an article from a physio about body development and core strength peaks etc, the fragility of teens was mentioned and strongly advised that players (Rugby, Football) should stay within their age group for as long as possible - till 20/21. sort of has a point, only Rooney comes to mind as someone who has coped well, generally injury free.

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I think your forgetting shreks mnetal health being he's a retard and that damh metatarsal

But the odd players all teen prodagies have serious injuries, Gerard had his back and groin problems only 2 thus far are Ronaldo and Messi who buck the trend but their still young enough to have an injury break down sooner or later smile

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4-6 first teamers in the next 4 years? That's ambitious. I'll be impressed if it's even 2.

Our youth system has improved a lot, but it's still not good enough. And the youngsters aren't getting enough chances under kenny. Spearing is 23 and Kelly is almost 22. These are not youth players anymore. Gerrard, Fowler and Owen started at 17/18. Who of that age is breaking through and getting chances? So far I don't really see anyone. Flanagan and Robinson had a few chances end of last year, but it doesn't seem that they're trusted.


Rafarendum, be fair - Fowler and Owen were exceptional talents from a young age. Those players don't fall out of the air ten a penny.

Youth isn't getting a chance under Kenny?! Are you insane? You may not consider Kelly and Spearing to be young, but I do, and they hadn't had many chances under Rafa and Roy. Kenny came in and gave them both a fair go, and they've both risen to it.

He also put the trust in Flanagan and Robinson to throw them into the first team at the end of last season too. At the time there were injuries to all of our full backs (Kelly, Johnson, Aurelio), and the two lads also done brilliantly. Robinson is currently injured and has been for a while now. Flanagan is 3rd choice between the excellent Johnson and Kelly - and rightly so. I don't see how that equates to 'Kenny not trusting them'. Would you have him drop Johnson and Kelly to give Flanno a game just to prove he trusts him? I think Flanagan should go out on loan this month.

I think we haven't seen many young players making the breakthrough this season yet because ALL of the games are too crucial to be f*cking around. The home draws to lower opposition this season have proven to us that there are no banker-wins and risks with youngsters certainly can't be taken in these games. The League Cup has been taken very seriously because it's imperative that we win some silverware. We have no European competition this season, so we can't test them there.

I would have liked to see more young lads getting a go, but I completely back Kenny's decision to so far not give them that go. Until we have injuries that make it a necessity, then we should continue that, because silverware and 4th place are far too important to be taking gambles with young lads just to prove that they're trusted.


Fair point BarLennon. Spearing and Kelly ARE young, but just not youth players, is what I meant. I was encouraged by last year when Flanagan and Robinson got chances. What disappointed me was seeing Aurelio in the side against Oldham. Aurelio is not going to improve, he's not going to be a star for us, he's not the future and he's not as good as Enrique. Robinson could have been played there. We could have put Sterling or Suso or even Morgan on the bench to bring on for 10-15 minutes if we were comfortable in the game. I suppose Flanagan did get on for a bit.


I agree with what you're saying about Robinson over Aurelio, but Robinson was injured at that stage. Think he's been on the injury list for at least 2 or 3 months now(?) I also agree about having one of Sterling, Suso or Morgan on the bench. Would have liked to see at least one of them there and get on for their debut. Hopefully at least one of them will get their chance before the end of the season. If we get by Man Ure in the FA Cup and get a more favourable tie in the next round, maybe then one of them will get an opportunity.


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