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What is the difference if you hurl insults at someone based on the color of their skin or their personality? I dont see a difference, they are 2 traits that constitute what that person is. So if its not ok to insult them on a racial basis why should it be ok to insult them on any other basis? thats were your WRONG It was a of bit of banter, i could see myslef giving nasri a bit stick about arsenal and so and so but i would,nt racially abuse him, it was two people driving home and came apon a footballer and got the shock of their live and gave him a bit of stick thats all... Guys, I have nothing against them giving him stick about arsenal...it's the f*cking arsehole part I have a problem with. Banter is one thing, verbal abuse is another...if a stranger walks up to you on the street and calls you a f*ing *unt or something, that's not banter, that's abuse!
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This is a rather smallish issue, which has been analyzed and turned at least 360 degrees around by now - let's put it to bed and move on lads! 
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But it's not a part of the job at all. It's just that a lot of fans do it, and tell themselves it's ok. When he's signing his contract, it's based on how he plays football, I doubt there's anything in the contract about how he should suffer abuse during games. That's not part of the job requirements or job spec.
You wouldn't have faulted him for smashing some guys in the face?! Your values are completely messed up. You're now justifying assaulting someone, and possible scarring them or worse, because of a few words. I've been tempted to thump someone for what they've said too, but there's no excuse to take it to a physical level. It's just words.
As I said initially. This is nothing. It's banter. And if you want to take the high ground, then you'll have to frown upon all nasty chants. Seems like even our own fans are now all out to criticise anything we do that isn't politically correct, or might offend someone.
Since we are talking politically correct, you have to take into account the difference between reality and what fantasy. Whilst it doesn't say anything in his contract about taking abuse from fans in the stadium, it is a reality which he accepts. However he shouldn't have to deal with it in his private time too. As far as me saying I wouldn't hold it against him if he smashed those guys, I wouldn't. I wouldn't condone it either as I don't think violence is the way to solve problems but if I was on the street and someone attacked me like that, I would feel threatened. Those guys did not just give him stick about arsenal, I agree that the arsenal part is just a bit of banter, but the swearing and insults go way beyond banter. I am far from what one would all politically correct, but there needs to be a line somewhere in the sand. For me that line is when the player is living his private life.
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I will always criticise our own players and fans if they do something that is unnacceptable. If you want to clean up a mess, we have to start in our own house. Just because we are LFC supporters doesn't mean that we should turn a blind eye when we do something wrong. I wonder what the reaction would be like if lets say some manc fans had done this to Pepe, or Glen or Luis...If iot was Pepe or Luis we would have all been on here saying how they are insulting the players cause they are foreign, if it was Glen it would be because he's black and so on... Like this it's just banter, but if it wasn't Nasri but one of our boys instead, I believe the reactions on here would be very different.
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Judging by the majority of the comments on facebook concerning that incident, on the Koptalk page, most the LFC fans seem to agree that that kind of behaviour is unnacceptable.
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I did not hear anyone abusing Nasri or any other player. The only abuse was from Man City who booed their own players. Its about time this rubbish was put an end to. These sorts of false claims are just making a ridiculous situation worse. I feel we should not abuse anyone, but every game now someone acts like a baby and makes a claim someone said something just to cause trouble. Stop believing this rubbish and get on with the game.
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If I had my way I would throw their Iphone in a bucket of water, bring back national service and the birch and thrash the living daylights out of lot of them. Best by far - good on yer Stan +1 +1 +1
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I did not hear anyone abusing Nasri or any other player. The only abuse was from Man City who booed their own players. Its about time this rubbish was put an end to. These sorts of false claims are just making a ridiculous situation worse. I feel we should not abuse anyone, but every game now someone acts like a baby and makes a claim someone said something just to cause trouble. Stop believing this rubbish and get on with the game. I suspect you haven't really read what this thread is about bandit. This incident happened outside the stadium. This was a case of personal abuse NOT a bit of friendly jovial happy laugh inducing banter, no matter how some seemingly want to dress it up. This is the problem with society today. NO respect towards anyone anymore. Basically, UP YOURS, and I'll do and say as I please.
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I did not hear anyone abusing Nasri or any other player. The only abuse was from Man City who booed their own players. Its about time this rubbish was put an end to. These sorts of false claims are just making a ridiculous situation worse. I feel we should not abuse anyone, but every game now someone acts like a baby and makes a claim someone said something just to cause trouble. Stop believing this rubbish and get on with the game. I suspect you haven't really read what this thread is about bandit. This incident happened outside the stadium. This was a case of personal abuse NOT a bit of friendly jovial happy laugh inducing banter, no matter how some seemingly want to dress it up. This is the problem with society today. NO respect towards anyone anymore. Basically, UP YOURS, and I'll do and say as I please. totally agree and it's been round for years. I remember the 96 cup final against Manu and we were at the Pantiles pub(now McDonalds). There were lights there and the lads were cheering fellow LFC fans as thy stopped at the lights, all a bit of a laugh until a merc with Manu fans came past - this was a family and the lads reached in and tried to rip the badge of the 10yr old lads shirt, they then kicked the car. Never felt so ashamed of being LFC fan, real scumbags.
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I must admit though that I am struggling to grasp the reasoning and understanding that it does indeed seem acceptable to hurl abuse within the stadium at match time as against screaming obscenities at one player in his car on the publ;ic highway. Must be a mob culture thing. 
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