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I am writing a 10,000 word dissertation on, "How has sustaining inflated wealth and profit during the current recession shifted communal ties and public perception of the football industry?"

This is probably more for the older fans but,

Do you still feel as connected to LFC as you once did?

Has communal ties shifted during the recession?

Do you think the lower league sides have more of of a connection to their community?

Do you think the money in football is causing any anger or frustration from fans towards football clubs??

Any thoughts would be great and I feel its an interesting topic to talk about also!!

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Originally Posted By: Reconize
10.00 words? sucks to be you!


it does with support like that!

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prepare to be bombarded with bitterness ryan.


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I suppose its a personal thing for everyone but for me i have an always will be emotionally attached so i cant ever see myself losing interest,however there will be some who like myself have been priced out of going to the match and that will have a major impact on new generation supporters,it may be a case of not being able to afford to go meaning no attachment at all or at least a distant ,longing to attend type relationship with the club,so who knows how shallow or how deep that affection goes? this as you can imagine changes the relationship the club has with community too, if there's no connection there's no loyalty,perhaps? Ive rushed this reply abit but hope it helps!? smile

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prepare to be bombarded with bitterness ryan.


always prepared for that in here mate

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Originally Posted By: LiverbirdLain
I suppose its a personal thing for everyone but for me i have an always will be emotionally attached so i cant ever see myself losing interest,however there will be some who like myself have been priced out of going to the match and that will have a major impact on new generation supporters,it may be a case of not being able to afford to go meaning no attachment at all or at least a distant ,longing to attend type relationship with the club,so who knows how shallow or how deep that affection goes? this as you can imagine changes the relationship the club has with community too, if there's no connection there's no loyalty,perhaps? Ive rushed this reply abit but hope it helps!? smile


cheers mate

I think a lot of people will always feel emotionally connected to the club, but the number of people who say, "I don't really follow football anymore, theres just too much money in it now, its not what it used to be." this response is becoming more and more frequent!!

people are becoming bitter due to players earning £200,000 per week, and ticket prices are going up while the rest of the world is going through a recession!!

in the 70's and 80's and to some extent the 90's, players interacted with the fans a lot more and wernt as cut off as the current players are now!!

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I am emotionally cold,bit like a Shark.


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I am emotionally cold,bit like a Shark.


really???? never would have guessed through your heart warming previous posts grin

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i'dbe very interested in reading that ryan. you might look at the formation of clubs via unions in the former soviet union (i.e. clubs for the people by the people).

for a lit review theres a great book "called the ball is round" and various chapters document the rise in income/revenues of clubs. there's also a great article here about the branding of the epl v the nba and the war between them for territory in china

i remember nick hornby gave a lecture about the identity of football clubs. he gave the an example of travelling back from cardiff after lfc won the fa cup from under arsenal's noses. he said that 10 years previously he would have been inconsolable. he thought he reason for that was that in the 80's and early 90's arsenal had the likes of keown, adams, winterburn etc. he felt he had an affintiy with these players cos they played for a long time and felt a level of pride in the club, whereas the team that lost to lfc was made up of players who, generally, hornby didn't care about in the arsenal team.

just thought that might be relevant in terms of the old school v modern game. this might help also
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2000/sep/03/newsstory.sport18

personally speaking, its not necessarily lfc that i feel less connected to. its the game in general. its less of a game for the people. i mean, the average man in the street i.e. the working man, who would have been the lifeblood of the english club...how many of them can now afford to go with their kids to see lfc week in, week out? probably very few. it's no longer a working class game. i need to empahsise that i'm not from liverpool. it would be easier to percieve a connection between a local to the club but i, and i know alot of irish are the same towards their team, feel a real affinity to the club and the city. i feel that affinity has wained though. it's not just the lack of accessibility for the 'working man' and family to go to the ground every week, it's the lack of local lads playing for the local team (and that doesn't just go for lfc, it goes for the mancs, arsenal, bolton, villa etc), it's the inherent cheating in the game (diving, feigning injury, appealing to the ref to red card an opponent). i feel the values of football are dwindling, cheating is rewared, honesty is frowned upon. i feel its a game that has swung from honest, local lads playing a physical game and shaking hands at the end to two offshore owned corporate giants pitted against each other who will go to any ends using as many dirty tricks as much as skill to win. and it kind of leaves a sour taste in the mouth.

in saying that i still love my team....just not a much as i did.

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