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Thundyr most of the fans don't come from L1 in fact I would say there is no greater proportion go to the game from L1 than anywhere else. The vast majority of the fans travel from the north west. I am taking a guess here but I would say 50% from the north west of england region, 35% from Liverpool and 15% overseas normally Ireland / scandinavia. There is no reason whatsoever the ground should be located where it is going forward the next 100 years. If we went for a large purpose built standium on the outskirts of Liverpool such as burtonwood / speke that would satisfy all groupings. But particularly overseas travellers or occassional visitors as they would have supherb transport links including two international airports. They are also expanding the rail facilitities in the north west of england which again would add to the opportunty. Anfield is the wrong place being a residential landlocked area of Liverpool its the past not the future. Unfotuntely this spiritual home thing is about which I simply cannot get my head around. And I have watched Liverpool since the late 60's starting from the boys pen on the kop. We need to move forward to what the fan base is likely to be for the next 100 years not the past 100 years.
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Thundyr most of the fans don't come from L1 in fact I would say there is no greater proportion go to the game from L1 than anywhere else. The vast majority of the fans travel from the north west. I am taking a guess here but I would say 50% from the north west of england region, 35% from Liverpool and 15% overseas normally Ireland / scandinavia. There is no reason whatsoever the ground should be located where it is going forward the next 100 years. If we went for a large purpose built standium on the outskirts of Liverpool such as burtonwood / speke that would satisfy all groupings. But particularly overseas travellers or occassional visitors as they would have supherb transport links including two international airports. They are also expanding the rail facilitities in the north west of england which again would add to the opportunty. Anfield is the wrong place being a residential landlocked area of Liverpool its the past not the future. Unfotuntely this spiritual home thing is about which I simply cannot get my head around. And I have watched Liverpool since the late 60's starting from the boys pen on the kop. We need to move forward to what the fan base is likely to be for the next 100 years not the past 100 years. I would say around the 15 thousand or slightly less mark for People from Liverpool myself Stanley who actualy attend matches at Anfield and I am including places like Your Bootle's, Huyton's, Kirkby's, St Helen's and your Wirral in that count even though none are actulay Liverpool. I just think it's foolish to not even explore the possibilities of a site In Speke or Burtonwood where we can have as much land to do whatever we want to do not to mention all sorts of grants and funding.
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I would not disagree with that Ford. I find it strange this idea is not more on the agenda for the club? If its obvious to us you can bet the club have thought about it too long before us. For me it was that stupid David Moores who started this Anfield spiritual home business and I think its carried on from their with the planning. Had we not had him in at the outset I think we would be on a different plan for the ground. Moores legacy goes on...
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Is the land in Speke or burtonwood ready for use? and has it been bought/given to LFC? wont planning have to be negotiated with? if so how long will this take along with new designs for a stadium in these areas take to draw up? i havnt heard anything other than desire for these spaces to be used,just how possible is all this? i think more space is needed to build a new football zone but cant see past all the complications here,if one of you guys have the knowledge i would like to hear what the probabilties are.
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Is the land in Speke or burtonwood ready for use? and has it been bought/given to LFC? wont planning have to be negotiated with? if so how long will this take along with new designs for a stadium in these areas take to draw up? i havnt heard anything other than desire for these spaces to be used,just how possible is all this? i think more space is needed to build a new football zone but cant see past all the complications here,if one of you guys have the knowledge i would like to hear what the probabilties are. There are a number of options Speke, Ditton, Aintree. However Burtonwood I can tell you a little about from from job. Its called Omega I have attached a film below. It was a big project thats hit the buffers a bit due to one reason and another. Its a development zone and they want to flog the land off. Out of Liverpool M62 its the big area of land to the right before burtonwood services. In the second world war it was a USAF base and flying fortresses used to take off from there and they needed a big run to take off with the bombs. (I cannot wait to see Emp's face if LFC had their ground on an ex USAF base). Back to the site there was to be a prison on it a couple of years ago but it was rejected a lot of local opposition. Were we to go to Burtonwood we would have to start planning again but the government is to bring new planning laws in the next few weeks where the presumption is planning is granted where it would lead to economic growth. I would think Warrington MBC would welcome LFC with open arms. Most of the locals would be reds fans anyway and they would be delighted. In summary it might delay while going through planing but if its the right move whats another couple of years ? http://www.omegaopportunity.com/on_omega.html
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PS on the satelite image on the link note how the site is right by the side of the M62. They could put a junction and drive straight right to parking concourse for the travelling fans.
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Thanks for posting that Stan it was really informative,i think the space is brilliant for what we want to do and it all makes sense,my only negative if you like is the fact we will have to start again with the whole project but in the end it would be worth it,the other thing for me is the area as in not in Liverpool, for some reason that grates a bit for me i think id get over it when and if the ball started rolling and we could see it becoming a reality,i know you don't have those feelings but it'll be tinged with a tad of regret to leave Liverpool and naturally Anfield anyway.I think id feel better if speke was available but i dont recall any spaces? i havnt been to that area for a long time though.
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I foresee that the only way we can get a spanking new stadium is when we win the next WC bid. Funding will come in for new stadiums around the country and Anfield will be one of them. Until then, we can forget about having a new stadium especially since we're talking about a recession here.
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I foresee that the only way we can get a spanking new stadium is when we win the next WC bid. Funding will come in for new stadiums around the country and Anfield will be one of them. Until then, we can forget about having a new stadium especially since we're talking about a recession here. next world cup bid ?
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Thanks for posting that Stan it was really informative,i think the space is brilliant for what we want to do and it all makes sense,my only negative if you like is the fact we will have to start again with the whole project but in the end it would be worth it,the other thing for me is the area as in not in Liverpool, for some reason that grates a bit for me i think id get over it when and if the ball started rolling and we could see it becoming a reality,i know you don't have those feelings but it'll be tinged with a tad of regret to leave Liverpool and naturally Anfield anyway.I think id feel better if speke was available but i dont recall any spaces? i havnt been to that area for a long time though. I can understand exactly where people are coming from as regards the Leaving of the City but lets be perfectly honest here, the City Council have never done us any favours in the past and have rather put obstacles in the way if anything so we should'nt really be shedding any tears if it came to actualy leaving.
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