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Originally Posted By: Rafarendum
You can always fill a stadium if you lower the price enough. If you want to fill a theatre or stadium for a concert they use groupon or companies like that and people turn up for free or on some special deal at the last minute. They then spend money on drinks etc while there, so it's still worthwhile money-wise.

You can let children in for free for some games. I'm sure we could fill it.

Also, a lot of people don't go because of the expense. But also a lot of people don't go because they can't, and can't get tickets. If I want tickets to a Liverpool match, I might have to pay £100-150 for one match!






this is true, i sometimes have great difficulty getting tickets especialy for big games with out paying well over the odds. but i have friends who are man united supporters and they rarely have trouble getting tickets for any games.

i think there would be no problem filling the stadium every week for the league games anyway as demand for tickets seems to be very high. and if the club are taking in more money every week then maybe the season ticket prices may drop.

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ok i will accept what you are saying. 80k in speke or burtonwoed would be just fine by me.
I just think we need to change the whole way of what we know when we go to the Match. If the Stadium is on your doorstep you take it for granted, you turn up just before and leave within five minutes of the ref blowing the whistle, it more of a chore going the game. The way I see it is, if the Club built a massive 80k or 90k stadium up by Say Burtonwood in it's own grounds, charge lower prices for tickets, send tickets out to local schools and encourage local youngsters back to the game which in turn would protect the Club future and give the Club it's identity back, you could build massive concorses with big food and beer halls, giant television screens, open spaces with statues of all the great players in and even stages that local groups could get exposure on. We could build our own rail station and have four or five shuttle trains every hour transfering fans back and forth from the City 15 minite express service, we could have our own coach park too. The point I am making is if we had something like that, the whole match day experience would change, it would become more of a day out because fans would be encouraged to get to the fan park area early and stay later, instead of the old fashioned, victorian way we go to games now, also the money spent would go straight into the Club. I have always said if we get the next move wrong we will have to pay for it for the next 100 years so this type of idea is at least worth considering, lets do something nobody has done before and be ahead of our time, we would be the envy of everyone not just here but Europe too whose grounds are all land locked.


I agree entirely Ford. And if I remember Omega at Burtonwood is a development zone so we would get grants. Its a brilliant plan but are the club ambitious enough. What makes me laugh is you would get people saying "we can't leave our spiritual home I would be gutted" the same people who never go near the place now. Such an opportunity that we wont take its enough to make you cry. As for the foreigh fans and Irish / swedish lads you could come on a plane to speke and 15 min shuttle to the ground and be away back in dublin for a pint at 9pm. No need for expensive hotels etc.


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ok i will accept what you are saying. 80k in speke or burtonwoed would be just fine by me.
I just think we need to change the whole way of what we know when we go to the Match. If the Stadium is on your doorstep you take it for granted, you turn up just before and leave within five minutes of the ref blowing the whistle, it more of a chore going the game. The way I see it is, if the Club built a massive 80k or 90k stadium up by Say Burtonwood in it's own grounds, charge lower prices for tickets, send tickets out to local schools and encourage local youngsters back to the game which in turn would protect the Club future and give the Club it's identity back, you could build massive concorses with big food and beer halls, giant television screens, open spaces with statues of all the great players in and even stages that local groups could get exposure on. We could build our own rail station and have four or five shuttle trains every hour transfering fans back and forth from the City 15 minite express service, we could have our own coach park too. The point I am making is if we had something like that, the whole match day experience would change, it would become more of a day out because fans would be encouraged to get to the fan park area early and stay later, instead of the old fashioned, victorian way we go to games now, also the money spent would go straight into the Club. I have always said if we get the next move wrong we will have to pay for it for the next 100 years so this type of idea is at least worth considering, lets do something nobody has done before and be ahead of our time, we would be the envy of everyone not just here but Europe too whose grounds are all land locked.


I agree entirely Ford. And if I remember Omega at Burtonwood is a development zone so we would get grants. Its a brilliant plan but are the club ambitious enough. What makes me laugh is you would get people saying "we can't leave our spiritual home I would be gutted" the same people who never go near the place now. Such an opportunity that we wont take its enough to make you cry. As for the foreigh fans and Irish / swedish lads you could come on a plane to speke and 15 min shuttle to the ground and be away back in dublin for a pint at 9pm. No need for expensive hotels etc.
Well thats my idea anyway Stanley, easy access for our OOT and foreign cousins due to an inter city rail link and two major airports one 30 mins away the other 10 mins away, a chance to reintroduce Local fans so families could start going again and enough tickets to keep everyone happy, everyones a winner even the Club. The only real objections would be the sentimental brigade going on about spiritual home nonesense and Liverpool City council who would probably lose millions because the Club has moved out of the City boundary.

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but anfield is our spiritual home we cant do that smile

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but anfield is our spiritual home we cant do that smile
And those are they very same types of reasons why we stopped being a big Club, lack of ambition and constantly living in the past off past glories.

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but anfield is our spiritual home we cant do that smile
And those are they very same types of reasons why we stopped being a big Club, lack of ambition and constantly living in the past off past glories.






it was a joke, i you read my earlier post you ll see i was all for the idead.

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if and idea, i mean

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if and idea, i mean
No problem, but people do still have those ideas and unfortunately they have held the Club back for years now.

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no i actualy think your post above was a great idea. any time ive been to anfield its always been hassle getting to and from the stadium on match days, i think i they found a less built up site it would benefit all the supporters greatly.

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Has something really happened behind the scenes that this is gaining momentum? Or are we still where we were a few months back when John Henry said that a million pounds per extra seat to build a stadium was too expensive? 30k extra seats (to 75k) at 300m cost.

I may step on some toes here, but a few thousand people who would prefer to walk to the game cannot be allowed to hold the entire club with millions of supporters worldwide to ransom over its future. If it is true that the majority of fans who attend games are not from L4 then outside sentiment there is no reason to not move. Look, I would love to make the pilgrimage to Anfield to watch a match vs the scum - that would be the highlight of my life supporting this club. But if we've stayed at Anfield and prevented ourselves from getting into the top 2 clubs in England just because some people couldn't bear to no longer sit on the spot where Shankly laid the first brick (many of whom don't go to the ground now), I think the trip would not be made with the same anticipation. Yes, it's our spiritual home, and I'd hate to see it destroyed (rather sell Melwood for funds or whatever), but our ambition has always been to be the biggest and the best, and 45k seats just doesn't allow that anymore. More seats means the prices should come down a bit to allow people to afford transport to the ground for starters.

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