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I remember them just!!......Wich one was Hicks again???

Yes good post Stanley. Don't FSG have plans to either develop a new stadium or extend Anfield in the very new future? Also I understand the offer of a new site in Stanley park has a deadline date for start up, coming up soon? In any case its time FSG made up their minds whether they are moving to a new location/site or developing Anfield and get on with it. Personally I would favour a new build of around 75 - 80,000 seats over reconstructing Anfield, because of the space limitations. If they opt for the stanley park site, they should negotiate a rail spur with bus and taxi access, if that is unavailable they should move to one of the various options outside the city. Your point is well made though and the grass is growing under our feet at LFC while our competitors are forging ahead, any further prevarication with this issue will only result in increased costs and risk falling further behind our competitors. I say get on with a new stadium/sports complex and get on with it now.

Theres a saying "you need to speculate to accumulate" investing in a football club is by its nature a risky business. You need to risk your capital and be willig to take a revenue loss to make a long term capital profit. They are talking about 1.8 billion for man utd thats the game we are playing here. But there is a risk. It looks to me Henry is risk adverse if so he is in the wrong game.

I honestly think buiding in Stanley Park is a big mistake, it's an old fashioned idea driven by sentiment, you simply dont just build big modern stadium in densley populated inner city areas as it's frought with problems. I think our next move is the most important the Club will ever make as a new stadium is hopefuly going to take us into the next 100 odd years, get it wrong and we could be paying for the mistake forever and even finish the football Club we now know, it's really that important.

It is that important I agree and I agree Stanley Park is not ideal. But we need to do something one day or hell will have freezed over. This has been researched by the club for over 20 years its not as if they are starting out now.

I understand the issues that Stanley points out as I used to go to games locally for years watching a team playing in a ground with awful facilities, transport links and parking. That club has since moved to a new ground. I have long since moved away from the area and have attended at the new ground which is good for me to take kids to etc but it has no soul.

City inherited a stadium after the Commonwealth Games and the money has been rolling in ever since as the commerciality of it has been realised. Those games were 10 years ago now and ever since then everything has dropped into place at City. I am not sure what the answer is and many fans of City will now not know of Maine Road and Colin Bell and Francis Lee followed by 40 years of abject failure. For them success in a city where they can now compete with United is like a dream come true.

For us to get to a stage where we can compete all round on a level playing field is a million miles away. Could mean sharing a stadium and compromising. It could lead to a partial loss of identity although having beaten off the best in Europe only 7 years ago I am sure that wont happen. I love coming to Liverpool when I can afford it and coming to that place of history just cannot be beaten. Its probably an age thing but I went to Wembley a couple of years ago to see my old team play. Although it was a great day out and winning made it better the history of the place was gone and the memories of the past were just that.

Bring back jumpers for goalposts etc....

Don't take this the wrong way but that is probably the one post you have made where you have shown you DO possess positive thoughts. Well done. Keep it up.

I think there is nothing wrong with sentiment as long as it does'nt stand in your way all hold you back but I fear if we build in Stanley Park this will be the case. I really dont understand the logic in moving a few hundred yards building a stadium which will put us about 300 to 400 million pound in debt for an extra 15 thousand seats the same new stadium which will inherate the old stadiums problems of very poor road and rail links, land locked and sky high ticket prices, absolute madness.

I would rather be on Stanley Park than redevelop Anfield. You onlt have to look at Old Trafford to see how bad a piecemeal stadium is. Ever been in the north stand you need a telescope and you see stuff all from the corners of the ground. Re the transport I think the regeneration included train links. But the Anfield location is not ideal I think it was that clown David Moores who did not want to move from our spiritual home. Garbage... But if it has to be on Anfield let it be Stanley Park. If nothing else I will have a ground named after myself!

great post Stanley and alot i agree with. No doubt far too much dithering has cost us years, going back to 85 when we were meant to build the centenary and anew anfield road to make a then 60000 stadia, because of Heysel we waited to see - here we are still waiting to see.

That said more progress has been made than you realise, finally we are becoming a force in marketing our LFC brand outside of matchday punters. The ground issue is complicated as the Liverpool council want LFC and EFC to pay for all the local area developments(roads,parking,central line link) when they build the stadia's. This is 150mil above budget. Would this happen in Spain?

Sheik monsour is no fool and has had the freedom to do what he wants with eastlands, bloody impressive no doubt. Our council is greedy and stuck in te past.

The ocean gateway is a truly fantastic development that will benefit the city no doubt, the council has given nothing, even delayed many of the planning applications. Sadly when the benefits are shared most of the money will leave the area as the council were not prepared to chip in.

all in all a sad situation, will be 5yrs before a new stadium is built.