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another was danny murhpy kicked out for no good reason.
Murphy couldn't win a place in the team because his all round game was sloppy - I lost count of the amount of times the crowd murmurred everytime he misplaced a pass. Think you are looking back through rose tinted glasses at Murphy, he was decent at set pieces and that was the be all of his talents. Even the Fulham fans acknowledge that. Finnan was past his best when we got shut of him
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murphy on one leg is better than lucas by all means criticise Rafa's transfers and the players he got rid of, but your argument is made laughable by your talk of Murphy and Finnan - both had to go, they weren't good enough to be in a team we ambitions of winning the league. In my opinion Rafa should have tried harder to keep the likes of Alonso, Crouch, Bellamy, Sissoko and Arbeloa as all are better than what we have in our squad, and in the case of Alonso, in our best XI
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finnan went only cause he got old, he was a better defender than anything rafa brought in and brushed off repeated attempts by rafa to replace him. murphy is miles better than lucas,so how can he have to have gone,when we have a player not fit to lace his boots playing Murphy left in 2004, we didn't sign Lucas until 2007 so Lucas wasn't a replacement for Murphy. Murphy knew he couldn't command regular starting place ahead of the likes of Stevie G, Hamman and even Biscan in central midfield, so knew his days were numbered with Benitez and that Rafa was sniffing around other midfielders.
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i agree with Gotti on this ,,,
Steven Gerrard: Heartbeat of LFC.
football is fuckingg cruel
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in Rafa's reign he has signed Alonso, Mascherano and Sissoko - all far better than Murphy, and I hope and pray that Aquilani is significantly better too. I'd rather see Lucas playing for us than Danny Murphy too, and reckon that Spearing will become a far better player than Murphy.
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murphy coudnt make it in his first season at anfield, se subsequently was sent out on loan back to crewe. Since he left then he has found his market to earn his bread after leaving liverpool:)
Sissoko didnt have teh passes of murphy but he was dam strong and could break up play yea,'
I dont think lucas is better than murhy, but murphy wasnt a star either, he walked his history lets focus of what we have for now.
we can focus on all rafa crap signings, but i think we shoudl point out, erik Meier, Kuvarme, Bernard diomede, bruno cherou, igor biscan, smicer, le tallac, zak whitbread etc. we have a jhistory of signing crap. Torres on of the greatest signings in teh last 20 years
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The boy Lucas aint doing bad if yuo analyse his stats,
Tacklers Team Tackles Success rate
Thomas Wigan 49 84%
Lucas Liverpool 42 69%
Cuéllar Aston Villa 35 77%
Cana Sunderland 33 70%
Diamé Wigan 33 70%
And Mashcerano too, aint doing too badly:
Passers Team Passes Accuracy
Mascherano Liverpool 560 87%
Essien Chelsea 559 88%
Ferguson Birmingham 497 86%
Carragher Liverpool 491 85%
Fabregas Arsenal 466 80%
Source
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11096_2705370,00.html
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Look Joe I dont really care about stats when it comes to players ability. From what I've seen from my own eyes is that Lucas at best will only be good enough to be back up for the first. I'm sure at some point Titus Bramble has been top of the stats chart but would you want him playing center half for Liverpool?
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Murphy and Lucas are completely different type players. Murphy did ok for us, but I'd obviously rather have Lucas or Sissoko at the club now than Murphy for age reasons. Sissoko again a different type of player to Murphy, but he was good, but never going to be a creative midfielder like Murphy tried to be.
Injun (I think it is you) when did Torres go out on loan? You keep saying it, but I don't remember him going out on loan. If he did I guess he must have been very young when he did. But I'm open to learning. I had thought he played at Ateltico since he was about 17. Spearing should not go out on loan. He is 20, and would be 21 by the time he got back. That's too late to go out on loan. Also don't know if you've noticed, but we're kinda lacking in midfield at the moment, and losing another player isn't going to help that. i beg your pardon mate, i confused torres on loan with the fact that atletico was not in the la liga first division, he played for atletic in the lower leagues before they were promoted. He actually played for atletico at a under 15 level. We are tight in the middle, but when aqulani is back, we will find lucas being 3rd choice and spearing 4th. Unless of course i forgot the new UEFA rule regarding home grown players, that means that Spering will have to remain to fill that quota of home grown players.
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Look Joe I dont really care about stats when it comes to players ability. From what I've seen from my own eyes is that Lucas at best will only be good enough to be back up for the first. I'm sure at some point Titus Bramble has been top of the stats chart but would you want him playing center half for Liverpool? i agree with you, lucas will be 3rd choice when aqulani is fit, i think he has had enough time to try and cement his place in teh first team, now for sure it is clear he aint upto it. Nope, i love titus bramble only for his own goals:) But the stats prove he wasnt doing very badly, he has been trying. but unfortunately he aint good enough for the first team.
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