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Re: Nothing wrong with the team just the finishing van Gogh #176149 28/12/11 05:58 PM
Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 1,386 Where ever I lay my hat Keefe Under 23 Player
Keefe Under 23 Player Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 1,386 Where ever I lay my hat	Originally Posted By: van Gogh Against the better sides we defend deep and counter attack, which suits us perfectly. Not that much flair is needed to pull off tricks like that. Against minor sides (like Sunderland, Blackburn, Wigan, Norwich...) we haven't got enough ideas to unlock their defence. Where's the speed and all the offensive creativity? Do we have the proper players for that kind of play? Can we dominate our opposition? Sure we can keep the ball for a while, but the passes tend to go backwards and sideways more than straight through up in the middle. You could see in the last game when SG came on that something instantly happened on the pitch. OK he was not fully match fit and lost a few balls, but the ideas and creativity was still there. You could see that we suddenly had a world class player in our side! Sunderland 14 shots 3 on target Blackburn 27 shots 7 on target Wigan 21 shorts 9 on target Norwich 29 shots 9 on target WBA 18 shots 4 on target This tells you that the creativity is there just not the finish

Re: Nothing wrong with the team just the finishing #176150 28/12/11 06:04 PM
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kubrick Under 18 Player K Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 573 Lancashire, UK	I agree that we are an inconsistent team - i.e. if we never seem to maintain high standards for the full 90 minutes. But generally I have been pleased with our play this year (Spurs aside and Sunderland at home). I am more annoyed that we have dropped so many points when outplaying the opposition - the biggest being against the two Manc clubs!! All in all it has been an annoying season. Nice to see that Roy's got WBA playing EXACTLY the same as he had us playing . . . i.e. drifting into mid table. I still think that buying both Henderson and Adam was strange . . . and if Kuyt isn't staying in the team he should be moved on.

Re: Nothing wrong with the team just the finishing kubrick #176151 28/12/11 06:05 PM
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kubrick Under 18 Player K Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 573 Lancashire, UK	Junior Hoilett and City's Johnson would be provide more options going into the new year.

Re: Nothing wrong with the team just the finishing Keefe #176152 28/12/11 06:06 PM
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thundyr Unregistered T	Originally Posted By: keefe Sunderland 14 shots 3 on target Blackburn 27 shots 7 on target Wigan 21 shorts 9 on target Norwich 29 shots 9 on target WBA 18 shots 4 on target This tells you that the creativity is there just not the finish Not necessarily. How many of those shots were hopeful pot-shots from outside the area? 50%? If we mainly fall back to the siege guns we have no creativity at all, given the amount of possession we have in every game.

Re: Nothing wrong with the team just the finishing #176157 28/12/11 06:21 PM
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Keefe Under 23 Player Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 1,386 Where ever I lay my hat	Originally Posted By: thundyr Originally Posted By: keefe Sunderland 14 shots 3 on target Blackburn 27 shots 7 on target Wigan 21 shorts 9 on target Norwich 29 shots 9 on target WBA 18 shots 4 on target This tells you that the creativity is there just not the finish Not necessarily. How many of those shots were hopeful pot-shots from outside the area? 50%? If we mainly fall back to the siege guns we have no creativity at all, given the amount of possession we have in every game. Hopeful potshots? I would say in all them games we had just the keeper to beat and never did it

Re: Nothing wrong with the team just the finishing #176192 28/12/11 07:14 PM
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Keefe Under 23 Player Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 1,386 Where ever I lay my hat	Name me one game other then spurs where the keeper didnt make a great save or we hit it right at him?

Re: Nothing wrong with the team just the finishing #176194 28/12/11 07:36 PM
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Keefe Under 23 Player Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 1,386 Where ever I lay my hat	Originally Posted By: johndoe All this keeper having great games against liverpool is nothing more than an excuse.If the keeper hadn't have saved Caroll's effort it would have been a bad goalkeeping error. We are not finishing well,nor getting enough men in the box,nor opening teams up. What I'm trying to say finishing well is the problem.

Re: Nothing wrong with the team just the finishing #176318 29/12/11 11:12 AM
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thundyr Unregistered T	Originally Posted By: keefe Name me one game other then spurs where the keeper didnt make a great save or we hit it right at him? So keepers should not have the audacity to make the odd good save against us? Get real, mate. We should be able to win regardless of keeper heroics - we shouldn't be thinking "If only he hadn't made those 2 saves!" when we've had TWENTY shots on goal. We should be thinking the way we used to under Benitez - I clearly remember Shay Given saving a ridiculous number of goal-bound shots when we player Newcastle before they were relegated, and we still won 5-1.

Re: Nothing wrong with the team just the finishing #176357 29/12/11 04:18 PM
Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 1,386 Where ever I lay my hat Keefe Under 23 Player
Keefe Under 23 Player Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 1,386 Where ever I lay my hat	And this brings me back to our finishing. We should not be giving the keeper chances to save some of them. As a team we need to be more ruthless in front of the goal.

Re: Nothing wrong with the team just the finishing Keefe #176371 29/12/11 06:14 PM
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Keefe Under 23 Player Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 1,386 Where ever I lay my hat	http://www.talksport.co.uk/magazine/feat...al-conversion-r

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