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Ok the vast majority of supporters of LFC are 100% behind him and no problem with that , but this issue has tranished liverpool football club because the rest of the country not man utd fans some non football fans think the ban is correct , and lets get it right he did say these words to evra , now all this what is getting done to evra or terry has nothing to do with liverpool football club and i believe liverpool football club and its supporters have to keep our own house in order first , and now all this is turning into is a mud slinging event on both sides and that is not right and is very bad for LFC and its well respected reputation , and if anyone says the clubs reputation doesnt matter well it does , now ok i believe 8 games was a bit extreme but it is now getting bigger than the club and that is not correct , now the issue of the tee shirt at wigan ok if the players wanted to wear them fine but dalglish should not have , if he chooses to back him fine but the tee shirt was wrong as the manager should be above the players , i dont know how this issue is to be resolved but the abuse and mudslinging on both sides is getting out of hand and is doing no good for liverpool football club, luis suarez , or the anti-race campaign .discuss ............

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In my view Suarez was guilty of nothing more than being unprofessional. He knows the rules and he should not have said what he did. But the furore and complete overreaction is taking society to a place none of us want to go. I believe in the principles of anti racism but unfortunately it’s been hijacked by zealots. The 8 game ban and the hounding of decent people like Alan Hansen is an outrage. So in summary Faz you have a point but the immense overreaction will bring a counter reaction which will lead to the very things the anti racism campaign does not want. However it’s my personal view there are an element in the anti racism zealots who actually want racism and were society free of racism their purpose in live and in some circumstances their livelihood would go.


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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
In my view Suarez was guilty of nothing more than being unprofessional. He knows the rules and he should not have said what he did. But the furore and complete overreaction is taking society to a place none of us want to go. I believe in the principles of anti racism but unfortunately it’s been hijacked by zealots. The 8 game ban and the hounding of decent people like Alan Hansen is an outrage. So in summary Faz you have a point but the immense overreaction will bring a counter reaction which will lead to the very things the anti racism campaign does not want. However it’s my personal view there are an element in the anti racism zealots who actually want racism and were society free of racism their purpose in live and in some circumstances their livelihood would go.
i agree with some of that but my point is about the reputation of the club not only in the UK but asia and the world and all they see is star player found guilty of racist comments , and the way liverpool f.c. are backing him doesnt look good to the non LFC world (and i dont mean just football fans) and the abuse on both sides is getting out of hand and its in danger of engulfing the club .

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I think you are right but either the club is right or its wrong. If its right (and I believe it is) then should we roll over on our belly to suit a tiny number of zelots? Stan Collymore among them? Were we to do that the club would have no principles at all. As far as Asia is concerned the politically correct stuff we have here in unknown in their society.


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Glad this post was raised I think it needed to be, It is getting out of hand, I think it has shown the mentality of some people and their veiwes on Racism. There has been the odd one on here want him hung, drawn and quartered, for what Stanley has said and that's being unprofessional. I think it has also shown what Racism realy is and that's a ticking timebomb. You can ask people to be tolerant of the different Race's and cultures, But don't ask people to accept it when Racism is used to get an unfair advantage in the world. Lets call it how it is, Luis called him a name that's it nothing more, I'm sure Evra has been called far worse than that since his time in the Premiership.

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Originally Posted By: syko26
Glad this post was raised I think it needed to be, It is getting out of hand, I think it has shown the mentality of some people and their veiwes on Racism. There has been the odd one on here want him hung, drawn and quartered, for what Stanley has said and that's being unprofessional. I think it has also shown what Racism realy is and that's a ticking timebomb. You can ask people to be tolerant of the different Race's and cultures, But don't ask people to accept it when Racism is used to get an unfair advantage in the world. Lets call it how it is, Luis called him a name that's it nothing more, I'm sure Evra has been called far worse than that since his time in the Premiership.
ok fair enough if you think he was unprofessional , but you just cant say these things in the U.K. and thats why outside the bubble of LFC people think the ban is correct and thats why the mudslinging on both sides has happened , and thats why i think its getting dangerous and out of hand , and flames no disrespect to you but that sort of siege mentality does no-one any good the club cannot isolate itself over this issue because more agree with the ban than dont .

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Its true the club shouldn't nor has to isolate itself over this,also people are more aggrieved by the way he has been branded more than the ban,if his words offended then they did, most will accept it was wrong but why should we have to put up with the press and public in general choosing to ignore valid points/problems with the case just so the papers sell and for other fans to don bigger boots to kick us with!? this isn't directed at you Faz! its a general point I'm making.


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I take your point, but the mudslinging starts because people are sick and tired of what I said about the unfair advantage it can give these people. People can only take so much before they say enough is enough and make a stand.


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A man I have great respect for well said John. No one has done more to foster anti racism, real racisim than John Barnes.

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