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Suarez admitted to using the word negrito (not sure on spelling) it isn't just that Evra claimed it. If we are gonna discuss such a sensitive issue we should at least be informed.

Suarez admitted to using the word. If you were walking down a street in england and you wanted a black guys attention you wouldn't (or at least shouldn't) shout oi blackie. Now is that actually racist, or derogatory, perhaps not but cases like this are victim centred, if evra felt offended (and i actually think it was just him being [oops] off with suarez anyway, then you have to take it as offensive.

The only question was do you let suarez off because in uraguay its common place to use that word (to the point that their most famous player (world cup winning captain) was happily dubbed a variation of the word. I don't know if I would, as they also call one of their players the 'monkey' (spanish equivalent ofcourse) and it isn't meant disrespectfully in the slightest there, but if someone used that in the office over here I'd hope to see them lose their job.

It was deemed that if you are over here you should adhere to what is considered un pc in this country not yours. Which in all honesty I'd probably, if I was to objectively look at it, agree with as a rule. The 8 games as a seperate issue is over the top because the FA are trying to be tough on racism. Which again as a rule is good, but it has led to suarez falling foul of it as he is clearly not a racist, but used language in this country is deemed as racist.

Even after an appeal of the guilty verdict, the 8 game ban and the chance of it getting reduced, he'll likely get a further 2 game ban for his fulham gesture. This is a disaster. Hope he bags a hat-trick tonight.

I'll quote the original text and what has now been edited, instead of posting the whole article.

(Original; The severity of the verdict would seem to indicate that this was a temptation the disciplinary board were not able to resist.)

Now reads =

(Now edited; From a South American perspective, the length of the ban might be taken to indicate that this is what the disciplinary board has done.)

This following text was completely removed;

(Original; My hope is that any punishment administered to Luis Suarez has been guided by this spirit. My fear is that this has not been the case…..completely removed)

and the best part yet, was his closing statement, which has now been completely removed!!

(Original; It smacks of the FA seizing on a chance to score a political point. Were they really judging a case, or are they more interested in landing a glove on Sepp Blatter?.....completely removed)

So censorship is alive and well at the BBC.

I read the original article too last night, and even posted a link on here for it. Outstanding article and disgraceful that it has been edited!

ah come on deakin, he has a point.

According to Luis Suarez' agent, he will be appealing the decision to give him an 8 game ban and is convinced the decision can be reversed. Here's a full article from the bbc about it.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/16295932.stm

Thought you guys might be interested.

He did not admit to using a racial slur, however, while Evra said he did. That makes it Evra's word vs his own, and the FA went with what the black guy said. I really won't be surprised to see more such claims in future.

Racism is stupid. The measures we put in place to protect those easily insulted are unfortunately even more so.

Exactly Thudyr thats the point. No one is condoning racism but what is going on here on just in football but in wider society is very disturbing. It’s not just Evra this can permeate into wider society, How many entirely innocent white people are going to have their lives destroyed by accusations because that’s all it will take an accusation. Have an argument or disagreement with a black colleague doesn’t go there will be the thought of many ordinary people. It’s the modern day witchcraft and a charter for malicious allegations. It will create a society where races quietly avoid one another and unspoken suspicion that’s not equality. Very disturbing trends going on here.

I think we're in a day and age where anyone of any race could pick out a negative stereotype about any culture, like being called a sheep shager if you a Kiwi or welsh. It just seems sad that in this day and age, with so many negative circumstances that are being related to many cultures, that it's black that can still pull out that trump card over everyone else.

If someone called me a Kiwi bastar d, why is that no worse then what Evra was called. Much like Suarez being called South American by Evra. There should be no difference in this era.