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It seems that there is a bit of bias amongst the fans regarding jay spearing. When he plays poorly then some fans take offence when he is criticised. I think this is unfair becasue although spearing is a young lad, and he is learning, why is it that some fans are selective in their critism?

When Lucas plays bad or makes mistakes, people go on about how useless he is and how bad rafa was to sign him.
I feel spearing is being eased into the first team at about the same age Lucas was eased in, it is only this season becasue we lost Alonso that Rafa is using Lucas in every game!
Spearing plays for a team i love, and i support him, but i think we need a balanced view and spearing is not immune to critism.

After all young boy Lucas leiva is not that much older than Jay Spearing. So why for spearing the guys say he is a youngster and he needs time, but for Lucas they dont show the same affection and patience.

And Lucas Leiva was the capatin of the Brazil National team, you cant be monkey if you captain Brazil.

Date of Birth Jay Spearing: born 25 November 1988 in Wallasey, Wirral, Merseyside
Date of Birth Lucas Leiva: born 9 January 1987 in Dourados, Mato Grosso do Sul

Im not trying to wind up local fans, id like to discuss this topic with maturity and id like the different views.

i don't care about international careers - after all barnes was crap for england but fantastic for Liverpool!

it comes down to this - lucas was bought for a few million pounds because he supposedly has great potential but has shown nothing in his time to suggest that he actually has any

spearing came through the youth ranks and cost nothing but has shown great potential in his time and his way into the team is being blocked by lucas ...... until lucas shows himself to be the better player then he has to go down as a bad buy

Two totaly different players for a start. This was Jays first start in the league today.He's come into the side in difficult circumstances. Lucas isn't a bad player and its unfortunate at the moment that he and Mascherano are both playing in the same side. Because they are both the same type of player they cancel each other out. For me Lucas would be cover for Mascherano.

Jay can be as good or as bad as he wants, all he needs is to be given the right guidance and also the opportunity.

You can give me the days when our first team was made up of British players any day of the week.

Your points are Valid:) I agree with what you are saying, errm, but i think Lucas will wam the bench once Aqulani is up and running. Then we will see a complete different midfield. Mascerano doesnt seem happy, so maybe he will be out next season:)

So we wll have Lucas, Masherano, Spearing as defensive midfielders, then do we sell lUCAS SO that spearing can have more opportunities.

you still don't understand do you?? spearing is NOT a defensive midfielder - he is an all round central midfielder ...... he can do far more than just sit in front of the defence and he needs to be given the chance to do so ..... unfortunately rafa will never give a player the freedom to express themselves!

Whether you care about internationals or not is not the issue, he fact that you captain your the world champions national team is worth its weight, 2ndly he also captained Gremo. Can you see spearing doing the same thing?
You cant be a captain of a major football nation if you are a monkey, so you should be sympathetic to Lucas in the same way you are sympathetic to Spearing. Fair is Fair.

Whatever position he plays, show the same support for Lucas, he is also one of us in a red shirt. Give the boy a chance:)

the boy has had a chance - plenty of chances! he is a defensive midfielder who should be just a back up to mash ....... spearing on the other hand is a central midfielder who has a lot more to his game and would work great with mash holding behind him until aqua man is fit

well aqua if bout 2 weeks away as we read the press, so what going happen to spearing?

spearing has been awarded man of the match by a journalist on the official lfc site. Did you watch the game? Do you think he deserved Man of the match?

I think Reina was man of the match, we could have been 3 down had it not been for Pepe