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Is that supposed to be a cheap shot? Nothing cheap about it. Think it's idiotic to tell a man that knows more about winning football matches than any of us ever will to look in the mirror. You took the cheap shot at Kenny. The man is total and utter class win, lose or draw. Hmm, if only you know how people on this forum react to the word "idiotic"... I did not take a cheap shot, anyway. I suggested that whatever flaws have appeared in our game are his to manage, so he should not look to place blame elsewhere, but rather study his tactics, consider just who constitutes his strongest 11 and best bench, and then try to keep the critical elements of that team intact from game to game since we do not have the distraction of the Thursday League. There are a lot of fairly obvious things going on out there, yet he constantly produces plans destined to enhance our weaknesses rather than our strengths. The loss of Adam's set piece delivery, something that he can spend time practicing by himself, being a case in point. I accept that Dalglish is certainly a better footballer and manager than I, and not once did I question his love for the club or whether he was fit for the job. But he can't go calling for protection for Suarez when the man regularly dives and generally behaves like a spiteful child. He can't complain about keepers having the game of their lives in front of the Kop when our finishing is woeful (I said he'd been good enough to not say that, until this weekend's game, of course). Were our house clean he could point fingers, but it's not. I also have to question his attack on the FA in defending Rooney's International ban with two FA axes hanging over the head of the only player in our squad who truly makes a difference to our play. Calling their process a "joke" is not the way to get them to listen to reason. I would have hoped he would have learned from Rafa's mistakes. Besides, looking at oneself in the mirror is the true test of a man, one I would expect him to pass. I'm just not sure he's considered that maybe things are a bit pear-shaped because we're not playing to strengths that he has already identified, instead embarking on some fantasy where 24 squad players and a magician are somehow untouchable in every game.
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Is that supposed to be a cheap shot? Nothing cheap about it. Think it's idiotic to tell a man that knows more about winning football matches than any of us ever will to look in the mirror. You took the cheap shot at Kenny. The man is total and utter class win, lose or draw. Was just wondering, if a man is total and utter class win, lose or draw does that mean he is beyond critism even though he has made a bit of a pig's ear of the job up to now given we are five points adrift of a champions league place already and we are not even into the xmas programme. I think if you go back to peoples posts on here before the season started every singe one of us all expected us to be better than what we have seen up to now and if we are honest about it even at this early stage we all know that, that golden champions league place is well beyond us. I dont want to sound negative but there has been no stage this season with what I have witnessed where we have even looked like a top four team and that for me is very sad because we all had high expectations back in August that we had the right man in charge and the right players signed.
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Well Thundyr, some of your points are valid and well made as usual, however it's easy for us hurlers on the ditch to take pot shots at Kenny, and I'm guilty myself in perhaps a less direct way, but I would argue in my more lucid moments that Kenny has done a great job considering the state we were in when he took over, compared to how the squad and the club in general is now. We are playing better football now than anything I can remember since the early 90s. We are creating multiple chances in virtually every game and that in my book is the measure of how a team and manager are performing. It can hardly be fairly laid at Kenny's door that our two strikers are off form and missing sitters. All he could do was to leave one or other out, even in important matches and he has shown the courage to do just that. Whilst I've voiced some oblique complaints myself I am nonetheless a Kenny fan and I am happy with what he has done this far and I believe he will, successfully rebuild the squad. However rebuilding a squad takes time and also experimentation and cannot be achieved overnight, so I say let's all get behind the project and support it.
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Is that supposed to be a cheap shot? Nothing cheap about it. Think it's idiotic to tell a man that knows more about winning football matches than any of us ever will to look in the mirror. You took the cheap shot at Kenny. The man is total and utter class win, lose or draw. Was just wondering, if a man is total and utter class win, lose or draw does that mean he is beyond critism even though he has made a bit of a pig's ear of the job up to now given we are five points adrift of a champions league place already and we are not even into the xmas programme. I think if you go back to peoples posts on here before the season started every singe one of us all expected us to be better than what we have seen up to now and if we are honest about it even at this early stage we all know that, that golden champions league place is well beyond us. I dont want to sound negative but there has been no stage this season with what I have witnessed where we have even looked like a top four team and that for me is very sad because we all had high expectations back in August that we had the right man in charge and the right players signed. Ahhh... has jimmycase/crownpaints/etc finally returned to us? 
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What is Kenny playing at?! visiting sick children at hospital?! Who's taking notes?! Why isn't he looking in the mirror and trying to figure out what he's doing wrong?! i'm appalled! He's ruining this club!!! It's time to get someone in that isn't the greatest to ever wear the jersey! Someone who's hasn't won league titles for LFC before as a manager! Someone who hasn't won the prem as a manager! Someone who doesn't love this club as much as he does! I'm sick of having someone with character and passion for this club managing us. I'd rather win everything than be proud to have a man with such character manager our team! Get out of the hospital Kenny and look in the mirror!!! http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/latest-news/reds-at-alder-hey-part-1  Jaysus, Paul McCartney's looking a bit worse for wear these days isn't he
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Well Thundyr, some of your points are valid and well made as usual, however it's easy for us hurlers on the ditch to take pot shots at Kenny, and I'm guilty myself in perhaps a less direct way, but I would argue in my more lucid moments that Kenny has done a great job considering the state we were in when he took over, compared to how the squad and the club in general is now. We are playing better football now than anything I can remember since the early 90s. We are creating multiple chances in virtually every game and that in my book is the measure of how a team and manager are performing. It can hardly be fairly laid at Kenny's door that our two strikers are off form and missing sitters. All he could do was to leave one or other out, even in important matches and he has shown the courage to do just that. Whilst I've voiced some oblique complaints myself I am nonetheless a Kenny fan and I am happy with what he has done this far and I believe he will, successfully rebuild the squad. However rebuilding a squad takes time and also experimentation and cannot be achieved overnight, so I say let's all get behind the project and support it. I think we can all have faith in Kenny as much as we want, the question is has John Henry, we all know the Minimum return he set out for us at the start of the season given his enormous outlay so time will tell wether Kenny will have done enough come May.
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Well Thundyr, some of your points are valid and well made as usual, however it's easy for us hurlers on the ditch to take pot shots at Kenny, and I'm guilty myself in perhaps a less direct way, but I would argue in my more lucid moments that Kenny has done a great job considering the state we were in when he took over, compared to how the squad and the club in general is now. We are playing better football now than anything I can remember since the early 90s. We are creating multiple chances in virtually every game and that in my book is the measure of how a team and manager are performing. It can hardly be fairly laid at Kenny's door that our two strikers are off form and missing sitters. All he could do was to leave one or other out, even in important matches and he has shown the courage to do just that. Whilst I've voiced some oblique complaints myself I am nonetheless a Kenny fan and I am happy with what he has done this far and I believe he will, successfully rebuild the squad. However rebuilding a squad takes time and also experimentation and cannot be achieved overnight, so I say let's all get behind the project and support it. I think we can all have faith in Kenny as much as we want, the question is has John Henry, we all know the Minimum return he set out for us at the start of the season given his enormous outlay so time will tell wether Kenny will have done enough come May. ...Aaaand we have confirmation. Welcome back.
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'Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?' 'If there is hope, it lies in the proles'
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if kenny stepped down today, he would have alreay done enough in my book. there's a terific platform at the club now for either him or another manager to take us that step forward. and remember, the step forward is only 2 or 3 extra wins a season. thats how close we are to CL football, and maybe 4 or 5 wins extra off a title.
Luis Garcia, He drinks sangria He came from Barca, to bring us Joy He's five foot seven, he's football heaven please don't take my Luis away.
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...Aaaand we have confirmation. Welcome back. If it is and he owns a ford focus,well that says it all really,clueless.
"Romance has broke down This boy is crack'in up"
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Luis Garcia, He drinks sangria He came from Barca, to bring us Joy He's five foot seven, he's football heaven please don't take my Luis away.
"...AND 32 MILLION POUNDS WORTH OF GOALKEEPER CAN'T DO A THING ABOUT IT"
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