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South Africans i can speak for, i know what they go through for a ticket and to get in a game. The South African currency is R14 for one pound. lol.
So on teh black market a 300 pound ticket could set you back R4500 rand. R4500 is the annual subsribtions at some mid priced golf clubs here in SA.
The sea, will be the sea, whatever the drops philosophy!
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The club will never lose its scouse identity! I sit near one lad from the Midlands, but the rest are all scousers. Ian Ayre was quoted last year as saying LFC has more supporters in a Liverpool post code than EFC, and that is just on this side of the Mersey cos their all Chester post codes now.
Also, it's just coincidence that the club crest has changed after we last won the title.
Overall, i'd say LFC is as scouse today as it always has been & that will never change. Am sorry scannerman but that is a ridiculous statement to make, there is no way in a million years the club is as scouse as it has always been, if you ever see Ian Ayre tell the man he is talking nonesense, he is trying to pull the wool over your eyes. Liverpool Football Club has for years now put Out Of Town fans ahead of Local fans for the plain simple reason they bring more money into the Club. I am a local and like virtualy all locals we get into the match about 2.55 and we are away at 4.50 we never buy Liverpool lager, sausage rolls, pies or tea, in all the years i have been going I have only ever been in the Souvenir shop about 5 times and that's the difference, an Out of Town fan will make a day of it, spend his money in the Souvenir shop, get into the match about 1.00pm and buy tea and sausage rolls and this is where the club makes it's match day revenue, a local is no use to them, he buys his season ticket for the season and thats it as far as the club getting money off them goes. Thats why the club sell blocks of tickets to Thomas Cook, travel agencies and to supporters clubs around the world, because of what they get back in from them when they arrive. As good as it may sound to the club they are missing one important factor and it's one they seem to of forgotten, because local fans can no longer get tickets for home games they now watch home games in all the pubs around the ground and there sons and daughters have got absolutely no chance of ever seeing a home game so where does that leave the future generations of Liverpool fans, where will they come from, they are hardly going to support a club they have never ever seen before are they, they will just do something else instead. The second part of that is where the club really does suffer, if the club ever fell on hard times and started to finish mid table for a few seasons do you honestly think all these Out OF town fans would still come and spend hundreds of pounds to come and see a mid table Liverpool v Portsmouth clash on a cold tuesday nite, not in a million years and thats where the club would lose out on local fans because by then a whole generations of fans and there kids will no longer be interested in going to a match because the club does'nt want them now because they are currently still a top club and are making plenty of money from OuT of Town fans. There is not a lot in that post I agree with, I have been a season ticket holder in the Kop since 1988 and it hasn't changed a bit, lots of out of towners came to Anfield back in the 80's and they still do. To say that only out of towners buy beer and pies at half time is ridiculous and to suggest that they would be the first to abandon us if we started to drift down the table is scandalous. I only have a 20 minute drive to the ground but some of these out of towners come in from Sweden, Norway, South Africa, you name the place people come to Anfield from there. They are as much a part of our club as the locals are and make bigger sacrifices to see their team play in most instances. please dont start with that one about how loyal Out Of Town fans are, I know there are quite a few who are loyal but the vast vast majority support us because we are successful and you can dress that up as much as you want to but it's the truth. Do you honestly think a fan from somewhere like Sweden who supports us because of our success is still going to spend the best part of a thousand pound to watch a team who are mid table, do me a favour. What you have to ask yourself about these Out Of Town fans is if they support a team because of it's success how loyal can they really be when they dont even support the local team, or the place where they come from. ask yourself this if everyone supported a team like these Out Of Town fans do because of it's success what would happen to clubs like Southampton, Hartlepool United, Mansfield Town and any other mid to lower league club. it would be the end of football. I know there are some loyal Out of Town fans among us but the vast vast majority are not proper fans, you only had to look at the farce which was the Athens Champions league final to see which fans got tickets and which fans never, alot of fans had never even been to a match got them. the reason i wont spend money in the shop or stadium is because the prices are adjusted to Out Of Town fans who have a few bob to spend, why would any local spend three pound odd for a weak cup of tea and sausage roll when he can get a chippy meal and bottle of lager outside the ground for the same price, it's not about being tight it's about refusing to be ripped off by the club, let the Out of Towners and day trippers wearing jester hats get ripped off instead.
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please dont start with that one about how loyal Out Of Town fans are, I know there are quite a few who are loyal but the vast vast majority support us because we are successful and you can dress that up as much as you want to but it's the truth. Do you honestly think a fan from somewhere like Sweden who supports us because of our success is still going to spend the best part of a thousand pound to watch a team who are mid table, do me a favour. What you have to ask yourself about these Out Of Town fans is if they support a team because of it's success how loyal can they really be when they dont even support the local team, or the place where they come from. ask yourself this if everyone supported a team like these Out Of Town fans do because of it's success what would happen to clubs like Southampton, Hartlepool United, Mansfield Town and any other mid to lower league club. it would be the end of football. I know there are some loyal Out of Town fans among us but the vast vast majority are not proper fans, you only had to look at the farce which was the Athens Champions league final to see which fans got tickets and which fans never, alot of fans had never even been to a match got them. the reason i wont spend money in the shop or stadium is because the prices are adjusted to Out Of Town fans who have a few bob to spend, why would any local spend three pound odd for a weak cup of tea and sausage roll when he can get a chippy meal and bottle of lager outside the ground for the same price, it's not about being tight it's about refusing to be ripped off by the club, let the Out of Towners and day trippers wearing jester hats get ripped off instead.
Well your consistent, but consistently wrong too I am afraid. I have a mate from Norway who has been coming over for about 7 or 8 matches every year and he would come over for more if he could get tickets. Sometimes he comes over with 5 or 6 other lads and they are all loyal fanatic reds fans. This version of out of town fans wearing jester hats and looking to find another club as soon as things go bad is in your head mate. I only hope that any out of towners reading this are not put off from supporting our club by your myopic view of how things should be.
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never mind blaming the change of badge what we dont have that we had in past is five good muzzies (terry mac .souness . case , brucie ) all great muzzies .
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never mind blaming the change of badge what we dont have that we had in past is five good muzzies (terry mac .souness . case , brucie ) all great muzzies . That's only 4 but you can add David Johnson
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no souness was worth two of anybodys muzzies
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please dont start with that one about how loyal Out Of Town fans are, I know there are quite a few who are loyal but the vast vast majority support us because we are successful and you can dress that up as much as you want to but it's the truth. Do you honestly think a fan from somewhere like Sweden who supports us because of our success is still going to spend the best part of a thousand pound to watch a team who are mid table, do me a favour. What you have to ask yourself about these Out Of Town fans is if they support a team because of it's success how loyal can they really be when they dont even support the local team, or the place where they come from. ask yourself this if everyone supported a team like these Out Of Town fans do because of it's success what would happen to clubs like Southampton, Hartlepool United, Mansfield Town and any other mid to lower league club. it would be the end of football. I know there are some loyal Out of Town fans among us but the vast vast majority are not proper fans, you only had to look at the farce which was the Athens Champions league final to see which fans got tickets and which fans never, alot of fans had never even been to a match got them. the reason i wont spend money in the shop or stadium is because the prices are adjusted to Out Of Town fans who have a few bob to spend, why would any local spend three pound odd for a weak cup of tea and sausage roll when he can get a chippy meal and bottle of lager outside the ground for the same price, it's not about being tight it's about refusing to be ripped off by the club, let the Out of Towners and day trippers wearing jester hats get ripped off instead.
Well your consistent, but consistently wrong too I am afraid. I have a mate from Norway who has been coming over for about 7 or 8 matches every year and he would come over for more if he could get tickets. Sometimes he comes over with 5 or 6 other lads and they are all loyal fanatic reds fans. This version of out of town fans wearing jester hats and looking to find another club as soon as things go bad is in your head mate. I only hope that any out of towners reading this are not put off from supporting our club by your myopic view of how things should be. well according to what you have just said Out Of Towners are so loyal they would never be put off by someone calling them gloryhunters who wear jester hats. Just one question why does'nt your mate from Norway support a team from Norway? and if he so badly wanted to support an english team why has he chosen Liverpool as his team instead of say Spurs, Everton, Villa, Leeds or even a Wolves or Leicester City could it be because they are not as appealing as a Liverpool or Manchester United, i rest my case.
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well according to what you have just said Out Of Towners are so loyal they would never be put off by someone calling them gloryhunters who wear jester hats. Just one question why does'nt your mate from Norway support a team from Norway? and if he so badly wanted to support an english team why has he chosen Liverpool as his team instead of say Spurs, Everton, Villa, Leeds or even a Wolves or Leicester City could it be because they are not as appealing as a Liverpool or Manchester United, i rest my case. I don't have to ask him, I know full well why it is. I met this guy when I was travelling around Europe in the early 80's, we kept in touch and when he came to stay with me in Liverpool I took him to Anfield to see a match. He was hooked from that moment and has come over regularly since then. I would class him as a better Liverpool fan than you are as he understands our history, he knows what YNWA means and happily him and his mates get a great welcome whenever they are over from fellow fans who appreciate their devotion to the club. I don't think he has ever been referred to as an out of towner or a gloryhunter in all his visits to the city. My case is also rested.
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well according to what you have just said Out Of Towners are so loyal they would never be put off by someone calling them gloryhunters who wear jester hats. Just one question why does'nt your mate from Norway support a team from Norway? and if he so badly wanted to support an english team why has he chosen Liverpool as his team instead of say Spurs, Everton, Villa, Leeds or even a Wolves or Leicester City could it be because they are not as appealing as a Liverpool or Manchester United, i rest my case. I don't have to ask him, I know full well why it is. I met this guy when I was travelling around Europe in the early 80's, we kept in touch and when he came to stay with me in Liverpool I took him to Anfield to see a match. He was hooked from that moment and has come over regularly since then. I would class him as a better Liverpool fan than you are as he understands our history, he knows what YNWA means and happily him and his mates get a great welcome whenever they are over from fellow fans who appreciate their devotion to the club. I don't think he has ever been referred to as an out of towner or a gloryhunter in all his visits to the city. My case is also rested. Just summs you up really when you say a person from Norway who only decided to support the club because someone took him to a Liverpool game once, the same person who could of easily been taken to a Peterborough, York City or even an Accrington Stanley game, you are putting him ahead of Liverpool supporter who is actualy from the City, does what any proper supporter is supposed to do and thats support his local club, and is a Liverpool supporter passed down from Generations of his own family, you saying you class him as a better supporter than me, well i will tell you what I class you as shall I thats a big joke who nobody in the right mind can take seriously.
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ged everyone knows you are not half the supporter that you believe you are - you are an embarrassment! a bigoted embarrassment who should crawl back in the hole you came from
the only big joke here is you expecting us to take anything you have to say seriously
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