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Every since we change our club logo with 2 flame plus a shankly gate..
we have not been winning the title..
what do you think?
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The way things are going we might as well take the liver bird of the badge as the club no longer belongs to the people of the City any more, the local numbers are visably dwindling by the season and very soon it will be pretty rare to hear a scouse voice at a home game. I would even go as far as to say i often wonder if the new stadiun should actualy be built in Liverpool, maybe it is more beneficial to build it in somewhere like Milton Keynes that way most of Liverpool's support will have easier access, through motorways, trains, and airports and they will live alot closer.
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the club will always have a scouse flavour, but it will transform into a global brand/club.
If you want retain the scouse ways and scouse players and managment with directors, i think it would be tough because things are changing and the world is becoming more and more integrated. With the EU it also means european countries can swap workers without work permits. yea.
I will be very sad if teh club looses its scouse identity, even though im not a scouser.
When you watch a united game at trafford, you will see three sikh guys sitting close to the dugout for everygame.i remarked to my brother who is a manc, it looks like old trafford is in india.lol.
I think it is also global because of the way the premier league is sold across the world.
The sea, will be the sea, whatever the drops philosophy!
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those flames were put up there in honour of those who lost their lives at hillborough. i think that this thread should just end here.
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if you responding to me directly, errm i have no problem with the flames nor the gate:)
I want the title and the champions league
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The club will never lose its scouse identity! I sit near one lad from the Midlands, but the rest are all scousers. Ian Ayre was quoted last year as saying LFC has more supporters in a Liverpool post code than EFC, and that is just on this side of the Mersey cos their all Chester post codes now.
Also, it's just coincidence that the club crest has changed after we last won the title.
Overall, i'd say LFC is as scouse today as it always has been & that will never change.
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The club will never lose its scouse identity! I sit near one lad from the Midlands, but the rest are all scousers. Ian Ayre was quoted last year as saying LFC has more supporters in a Liverpool post code than EFC, and that is just on this side of the Mersey cos their all Chester post codes now.
Also, it's just coincidence that the club crest has changed after we last won the title.
Overall, i'd say LFC is as scouse today as it always has been & that will never change. Am sorry scannerman but that is a ridiculous statement to make, there is no way in a million years the club is as scouse as it has always been, if you ever see Ian Ayre tell the man he is talking nonesense, he is trying to pull the wool over your eyes. Liverpool Football Club has for years now put Out Of Town fans ahead of Local fans for the plain simple reason they bring more money into the Club. I am a local and like virtualy all locals we get into the match about 2.55 and we are away at 4.50 we never buy Liverpool lager, sausage rolls, pies or tea, in all the years i have been going I have only ever been in the Souvenir shop about 5 times and that's the difference, an Out of Town fan will make a day of it, spend his money in the Souvenir shop, get into the match about 1.00pm and buy tea and sausage rolls and this is where the club makes it's match day revenue, a local is no use to them, he buys his season ticket for the season and thats it as far as the club getting money off them goes. Thats why the club sell blocks of tickets to Thomas Cook, travel agencies and to supporters clubs around the world, because of what they get back in from them when they arrive. As good as it may sound to the club they are missing one important factor and it's one they seem to of forgotten, because local fans can no longer get tickets for home games they now watch home games in all the pubs around the ground and there sons and daughters have got absolutely no chance of ever seeing a home game so where does that leave the future generations of Liverpool fans, where will they come from, they are hardly going to support a club they have never ever seen before are they, they will just do something else instead. The second part of that is where the club really does suffer, if the club ever fell on hard times and started to finish mid table for a few seasons do you honestly think all these Out OF town fans would still come and spend hundreds of pounds to come and see a mid table Liverpool v Portsmouth clash on a cold tuesday nite, not in a million years and thats where the club would lose out on local fans because by then a whole generations of fans and there kids will no longer be interested in going to a match because the club does'nt want them now because they are currently still a top club and are making plenty of money from OuT of Town fans.
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you got a point, but do you think the money men consider this local fan issue? What do you propose they do?
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The club will never lose its scouse identity! I sit near one lad from the Midlands, but the rest are all scousers. Ian Ayre was quoted last year as saying LFC has more supporters in a Liverpool post code than EFC, and that is just on this side of the Mersey cos their all Chester post codes now.
Also, it's just coincidence that the club crest has changed after we last won the title.
Overall, i'd say LFC is as scouse today as it always has been & that will never change. Am sorry scannerman but that is a ridiculous statement to make, there is no way in a million years the club is as scouse as it has always been, if you ever see Ian Ayre tell the man he is talking nonesense, he is trying to pull the wool over your eyes. Liverpool Football Club has for years now put Out Of Town fans ahead of Local fans for the plain simple reason they bring more money into the Club. I am a local and like virtualy all locals we get into the match about 2.55 and we are away at 4.50 we never buy Liverpool lager, sausage rolls, pies or tea, in all the years i have been going I have only ever been in the Souvenir shop about 5 times and that's the difference, an Out of Town fan will make a day of it, spend his money in the Souvenir shop, get into the match about 1.00pm and buy tea and sausage rolls and this is where the club makes it's match day revenue, a local is no use to them, he buys his season ticket for the season and thats it as far as the club getting money off them goes. Thats why the club sell blocks of tickets to Thomas Cook, travel agencies and to supporters clubs around the world, because of what they get back in from them when they arrive. As good as it may sound to the club they are missing one important factor and it's one they seem to of forgotten, because local fans can no longer get tickets for home games they now watch home games in all the pubs around the ground and there sons and daughters have got absolutely no chance of ever seeing a home game so where does that leave the future generations of Liverpool fans, where will they come from, they are hardly going to support a club they have never ever seen before are they, they will just do something else instead. The second part of that is where the club really does suffer, if the club ever fell on hard times and started to finish mid table for a few seasons do you honestly think all these Out OF town fans would still come and spend hundreds of pounds to come and see a mid table Liverpool v Portsmouth clash on a cold tuesday nite, not in a million years and thats where the club would lose out on local fans because by then a whole generations of fans and there kids will no longer be interested in going to a match because the club does'nt want them now because they are currently still a top club and are making plenty of money from OuT of Town fans. There is not a lot in that post I agree with, I have been a season ticket holder in the Kop since 1988 and it hasn't changed a bit, lots of out of towners came to Anfield back in the 80's and they still do. To say that only out of towners buy beer and pies at half time is ridiculous and to suggest that they would be the first to abandon us if we started to drift down the table is scandalous. I only have a 20 minute drive to the ground but some of these out of towners come in from Sweden, Norway, South Africa, you name the place people come to Anfield from there. They are as much a part of our club as the locals are and make bigger sacrifices to see their team play in most instances.
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The club will never lose its scouse identity! I sit near one lad from the Midlands, but the rest are all scousers. Ian Ayre was quoted last year as saying LFC has more supporters in a Liverpool post code than EFC, and that is just on this side of the Mersey cos their all Chester post codes now.
Also, it's just coincidence that the club crest has changed after we last won the title.
Overall, i'd say LFC is as scouse today as it always has been & that will never change. Am sorry scannerman but that is a ridiculous statement to make, there is no way in a million years the club is as scouse as it has always been, if you ever see Ian Ayre tell the man he is talking nonesense, he is trying to pull the wool over your eyes. Liverpool Football Club has for years now put Out Of Town fans ahead of Local fans for the plain simple reason they bring more money into the Club. I am a local and like virtualy all locals we get into the match about 2.55 and we are away at 4.50 we never buy Liverpool lager, sausage rolls, pies or tea, in all the years i have been going I have only ever been in the Souvenir shop about 5 times and that's the difference, an Out of Town fan will make a day of it, spend his money in the Souvenir shop, get into the match about 1.00pm and buy tea and sausage rolls and this is where the club makes it's match day revenue, a local is no use to them, he buys his season ticket for the season and thats it as far as the club getting money off them goes. Thats why the club sell blocks of tickets to Thomas Cook, travel agencies and to supporters clubs around the world, because of what they get back in from them when they arrive. As good as it may sound to the club they are missing one important factor and it's one they seem to of forgotten, because local fans can no longer get tickets for home games they now watch home games in all the pubs around the ground and there sons and daughters have got absolutely no chance of ever seeing a home game so where does that leave the future generations of Liverpool fans, where will they come from, they are hardly going to support a club they have never ever seen before are they, they will just do something else instead. The second part of that is where the club really does suffer, if the club ever fell on hard times and started to finish mid table for a few seasons do you honestly think all these Out OF town fans would still come and spend hundreds of pounds to come and see a mid table Liverpool v Portsmouth clash on a cold tuesday nite, not in a million years and thats where the club would lose out on local fans because by then a whole generations of fans and there kids will no longer be interested in going to a match because the club does'nt want them now because they are currently still a top club and are making plenty of money from OuT of Town fans. Well Ged stop being a tight ar$e and do what the OOTS do! Spend a bit of cash inside the ground. I have never been to Anfield and only dream of being there to see the team i love play only one game! If I were a member (as I am of my AFL team) I would still put money over the bar and the canteens to buy food etc and make a day of it each time I'd go! Some of us aren't quite as privelidged to be able to go to the home games and those that are shouldt take it for granted! And YES, if Liverpool started to finish midtable I would still be supporting them as much and as passionately as I do now because I am proud to be supporter of this magnificent club and it's players! YNWA
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