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that's true but the big question then is why did we splash £35m on him? kenny must have some sort of plan on how to get the best out of andy and i guess that's the main reason why we bought downing this summer. unfortunately he's not had much of an impact so far and when it comes to andy he really needs to get the right service if we're gonna get the best out of him. and it's not like he's been playing that much (not saying he deserves more time on the pitch).

but hopefully this will get better by time...

I presume you are not one of those mugs like me who pay £45 per game but watch it on the TV? Where do you think the money comes from? Dumbest comment I have heard in years

I'm very much betwixt and between on Carroll as a player. I think you may be right about his attitude and not just attitude but philosophy in general, somehow I don't think its very healthy and I'd question his application/commitment, I just think he needs to get his head right about what he wants to achieve in the game. There is potential there I believe, but has he the mindset, self image and the will to develop it?
As far as the issue of the 35mil is concerned I see it as an issue only if he fails to deliver, if he comes good then it's not bad value considering his age and sell on value. It's too early to pronounce on this aspect, many young players particularly strikers, take up to two or three seasons to come good and we need to give him time and encouragenent. In the end only Carroll can deliver on the promise/talent he was born with and I think that will depend on whether he has the hunger and the will to succeed.

I think it lis with Andy Carroll, if he really wants it then he should work harder than anyone else. As Stanley said he has shown nothing to say he has something. Crouch worked really hard when he came and fans could see he was giving his all. Andy C? well nothing.
I look at all players to see if they possess the basics, touch, pace, skill, vision, presence and frankly the lad has shown NONE of these attributes. He maybe a late developer as players of his type mature at 25+ but can we afford the luxury?

also info locally and through various reliable press etc is indicating that he is not trying hard enough. I quote Oliver Holt(times I think) on sunday supplement(12th Nov) talking about our sports scientists being the best in the prem and Andy C is off the scale BUT the wrong end.
Pepe on footy focus saying that Andy C is the worst trainer at the club.Even Capello has indicated that he is not in shape(he is a top coach regardless of England position) This does not tell me the boy is not putting it in and therefore should not be given any slack. The bare minimum is sweat on his forehead, not forlorn looks and daft tracking back tackles.

I personally would cut our losses at the end of the season and move on, unless dramatic change in attitude as much as anything else.

I'll say how big a disaster short term this has been and how crucial it is we learn from it going forward.

We bought a PROVEN world class striker at top money in the summer and we would now be sitting there with City at the very least.

No Fu**kin doubt about it.

No club who has to spend money wisely e.g. LFC, can afford to drop a rick like this again, unless we are sold to some Arab out the blue.

have to say i agree with many of the comments here. I think AC though has lots of potential and for Newcastle was fantastic. I must say as everyone else when he joined the pricetag raised a few eyebrows but i was genuinely excited. I was pleased Kenny and comolli were prepared to make a statement. However everyone can see that he hasn't exactly set the world on fire as hoped. I also get the impression that he isn't the best trainer and isn't as committed as he should be. In fact i could be way off the mark but i question if his heart isn't still at Newcastle and if he really wanted to leave. I'm not sure if this is the case but think we are managing it as best as we can at the moment. i really hope being left out of the team is giving him a wake-up call and hope that can motivate him. He's young, not played too much and has bags of potential so man up Andy and show us your worth!!

Lets face it lads, AC is not worth the money we brought him in and it will take alot and I mean ALOT of impressive performances for me to believe in him again. We had to learn the hard way with Lucas and waited long, If AC proves us wrong at the end like Lucas has and brings us success then so be it, I just hope he doesn't end up being sold for 5m for some midtable club cr loaned out because at the moment thats how it looks like it being ending.

Well worth the 35 pence, only joking I 'd keep him in squad

Loads of top comments on here, basically why was he bought? not good enough on past or present performances and the real issue for me is he doesn`t fit into pass and move football at all. I just don`t see a place for him and we always look worse when he plays, his reading of the game is much slower than others and when the ball comes in he`s generally looking at it from 5 meters away rather than scoring. At best he`s back up, needs to be shifted on, I would rather have Defoe on the bench.!