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liverpool will always be a big club, but we wont be a succesfull one if we sell our best players. the aim i hope is to bring these promising players through and hang on to them and challenge from there.

I always think the best players are those you bring through rather than big money signings. But its so hard nowadays for players to get a chance in the first team there is so much at stake now clubs like Liverpool can't chance it.

I certainly hope so too, because if they start talking about resale value too often, then I guess your doubts might come true. And that would be the end of LFC as it once was - a big club.

Nowadays we're only big in the context of history - not current displays.

2005, 2007 and 2008/2009 we had something to back our claim of being a big club. But apart from that we'll have to go back 20 odd years for that claim to sound convincing.

Would you call Man utd a big club? I believe they sold Beckham and Ronaldo, their biggest players at the time, in their prime and yet they carried on winning trophies. It's all about whether you have someone ready to step in and if we buy promising youngsters who develop into stars, i don't see why we shouldn't have players waiting on the sidelines to show their magic.

I am not quite sure how you can be calling for Commolli's head either, you say it's the signings that are costing us the points, but at the end of the day it is Kenny who picks the team, the starting line up and so on. Kenny is the one playing Downing and Carroll and Hendo, not Commolli so I don't see why you want to blame the guy for our "supposed" downfall. I think we are performing as expected at this stage of the season. If the end of the season nears and we are still drawing with Norwich and Swansea, I will start worrying, until then, I think we are doing just fine. Things are moving in the right direction.

Do you honestly think that - because in the context of our season so far it's not so much a bold claim as an outright lie?

The problems with forums like these is the extremists tend to have the loudest voices

It's either those like Crown Paints and Faz who say Kenny's already halfway to turning Liverpool into a mid-table side by wasting a huge amount of money on players who will never be good enough to play for a team with aspirations of playing in the Champions League OR those like Martin Hole and yourself who suggest if not for a lack of luck we'd be up there with Man City and that draws against the likes of Swansea and Norwich are nothing to worry about whatsoever, and that all the new signings will be the stars of the Premier League in a couple of years time and will be worth every penny

Whilst neither argumewnt is concrete, I have ti say tghe facts so far this season led me to be more sympathetic to the former view than the latter

drawing against Swansea and Norwich at home IS a big deal because its pibnts we drop in games like trhis which will be the likely why we fail to get into Europe again and IMO the main reason behind that is the poor signings we made this summer

And whether fault lies with Comoli or Kenny misses the point - these players weren';t good enougfh and shouldn't have been signed for the money we stumped up - making it bad business

And to add insult to injury letting the likes of Aquilani and Merireles to go for peanurs just to get them off the wage bill to make way for the new inferior players is bad management plain and simple

Given the football we were playing at the end of last season, the money we soent over summer and the bild pre-season claims coming from Anfield, so far this season has been a disaster

The blindfaithers can spin it how they like - but after hearing their bleatings throughout last season, not to mention the one before that, few will take them seriously

Look, I am definately not a blind faither and I agree that all managers should be questioned when they make decisions that seem odd, however I just don't think now is the time to be calling for Kenny or Commolli to go. I don't think they are doing a bad job, I am not putting our results against Swansea or Norwich down to bad luck but to poor finishing. However, poor finishing is a sign of poor form or perhaps bad luck. I don't think anyone on here can claim that Suarez is on poor form, so his misses go down as bad luck, hitting the post and crossbar on numerous ocassions is also down to bad luck. Carroll has been poor so far but his form does seem to be picking up slowly but steadily.

I feel that we are doing just fine at the moment, I didn't expect us to be top of the table at the start of the season as I know that when so many new players are brought into a squad, it takes time for hem to gel. Nani from united had a terrible first season but he is now one of their key players and a wanted man. Who is to say that the same won't happen with Carroll or Downing, how can they be judged after only a couple of months. I believe those are the people that should be called blind, not myself, who simply believes that transforming a team who had hit rock bottom into a title challenging team takes time. I can see positives in the way liverpool are playing, we are playing attacking footbal, with a lot of passes (which thankfully are not going backwards towards Pepe), The team spirit seems to be back and on a high, The players are showing hunger and to be honest I see all of those as positives, as signs of things moving in the right direction. Now how anyone can dispute that Liverpool is better now than it was under Roy's time as manager or in Rafa's last season is beyond comprehension to me. If you really disagree that we are playing better football, are a better team and have improved in under Kenny and Commolli, then you might be the blind one.

So could you please explain how exactly my statement that we are moving in the right direction is a bold statement or a lie?

Whether I disagree with letting Aquailani go Meireles for that matter is irrelevant, but i will air my views. I thin k letting Aquaman go was a good piece of business as whilst he is undoubtedly a good player, he is not a player who can do well in the PL. Meireles is another story, I think we should have kept him but it is clear that there was bad blood between him and the new owners who didn't wish to increase his wages and since that is the case, he had to go as he would have been bad for the atmosphere in the dressing room. So, in the end, those seem to be good pieces of business and not bad ones, Adam has come in and done well as a replacement, contributing more in his games than Aquaman ever did.

It is incredible how some of the people on here will look for any excuse to come down on Kenny and the rest of the staff including the owners.

Good riposte there Marko, but you're waisting your time, the 'negative nancy's won't take any of that common sense in, every thread here, regardless of the subject, gets dragged down into their negative rants. It seems to be how they see the world and they enjoy their own perverted vistas and they are 'not for turning', thats for sure.

perverted vistas lol , bet thats what windows sytem they run

Inverted vistas