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Perhaps Crownpaints and Faz should read the following. It is a brilliant piece of writing adressing all that this thread has turned into. If you have complained about tactics, transfers, Kenny or our results against Swansea and Norwich, take 5 minutes and read this article! Brilliant stuff! http://www.koptalk.co.uk/Martin-Hole/kennys-rebuilding-project-is-only-half-complete.html

It's quite a good article but it doesn't address two cricial points:

1) it almost ignores the fact that the football we've played this season hasn't even threatened to get close to that we were playing under daglish last season - when we were hammering not just the likes of Birmingham and Fulham but Man Utd, Man City and Newcastle (teams currently above us in the table)

2) It doesn't properly address the amount of money we spent on average players and the damaging influence of Comoli - a walking disaster whose failed at every single club he's been at - who the owners were naively tricked into bringing in

Being new to football I dom't blame the owners at all - but those who advised them to hire a man know seen as joke but any club that had the misfortune to work with him on the past - Arsenal, Tottenham

As soon as he got the job I knew there would be trouble ahead

That's ludicrous

Despite the miserable days of Sounness reign, the spice boys era of Roy Evans where we never loked like winning anything big, the unpleasant fag end of houllier's liverpool and rafa's last season, Liverpool have never (not in my lifetime) looked as bad as we did under Hodgson

Yes - the squad he inherited was indeed one of the weakest in memory, but he made it even worst by drafting in the likes of Poulsen and Konchesky (two of the worst players to ever don the shirt), had us playing the most dour, uninspiring football I've ever seen us play (which is some achievement given both Houllier and Rafa were 'defensive' coaches) and defended the indefensible

I'm not disputing that Daglish's Liverpool have been massively disapppinting this season - despite the lies from Martin Hole and others - but to try and say things would be worst had daglish and not Hodgson taken over in the 2010 summer is nonsense

Bit pointless arguing with clown he has been booted

bit pointless arguing with him when he hasn't been booted too

I am not sure you concentrated fully whilst reading the article (this is not a dig at you by any stretch of the imagination) Firstly, there is a part that concentrates on Carroll and Hendo aswell as Downing and as far as your second point is concerned, if you leave out our performance against Swansea, can you name another match where we didn't completely dominate the midfield and control the game. Obviously Tottenham comes to mid but surely you cannot concentrate on a game where we were 2 men down and where our tactics were wrong. Having said that, every manager will get his set up wrong sometimes. Other that those 2 games we have dominated every match IMO.

It depends what you mean by domination

We bossed the matches against Wolves, Sunderland and Norwich until they scored - and we looked decisively shakey thereafter

Had we dominated those games in the way you suggest we surely would have killed them off

And whilst we had Sunderland under the cosh for the first half, if any side looked like winning it after they had equalised it was they, not us

And it took an unfair sending off for us to start bissing the Everton game whereas the Arsenal game had everything to do wuth the introduction of Suarez and Merieles - who did more in their 15 minutes on the pitch than the rest of the players did throughout the whole game

Even if what you were saying was true - about us dominating most of our games - a team that dominates games without getting 3pts isn't a very good one - so surely either way a tactical rethink required

Not sure I agree with you there, perhaps the reason we weren't finishing off the opposition is because our strikers weren't on form or such. When a team creates as many chances as we did in those games, surely the tactics are spot on. As far as the everton game is concerned and the unfair sending off, surely you could argue the same about our game vs spurs. The way I see the game against Arsenal is that the players who were on the field for the first 75 minutes did exactly what they were meant to do. The reason Suarez and Meireles didn't start that game is because we were tactically set up to tire out the opposition, keep a clean sheet and then bring on 2 players with lots of flair and steal the points. The game look set up that way from the beggining and it was a good tactical decision. Sunderland was our first game of the season but I will admit that we were very weak in the 2nd half. I still think we are playing good football though and that it will start to pay dividends sooner than most people expect.

+1. It's really small minded to say that he, or Kenny for that matter, is a total failure. Both of them have had some initial success since they arrived, and both have the premier league pedigree to back it up. There have been some growing pains, and there will probably be more. That doesn't mean that they're morons, or that everything is going down the toilet. It's a long way the top, and we're not getting there over night.

i have never called for dalglish to be sacked , in my opinion this season has been for me as expected average yes liverpool win beat some team 4/5 or 6 nil no doubt about that but also very capable of losing 4/5 or 6 nil , and i dont think liverpool will finish 4th and i havent changed on that , that why i say win the league cup and try for the F.A.Cup because it could in my opinion i can see that liverpool will not finish 4th and if the domestic cups are given up then it will be once again another season of total mediocrity instead of some glory and some silverware , liverpool could build on a season like what sours did in 2008/9 by winning the league cup and went on to compete in the champions league and could very well get in it this season and liverpool should look to that as a measure of progression .

not wantin to start another row with ya faz, but at least tell the truth.
you have called for dalglish to be sacked. just last week in another thread you were saying this exact same thing and barlennon proved that you had posted he should be sacked.
make up your mind at least