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As for a year being more than enough time. It can take several years to assemble a team that can challenge for the title. 20 years of doing the wrong things at ownership level can't be fixed in one year. That's just unrealistic. You should see some early signs that the owners intend to do better. I think we've seen that. You're asking for too much too soon. And not even asking for the right thing.

It's not even clear that we could fill a larger stadium anyway. We already have plenty of fans who just don't have the money. You can't build a bigger stadium and then reduce the ticket prices much. That defeats the whole object of increasing capacity in the first place! Can we fill a 60,000-70,000 stadium at increased ticket prices when we already have fans unable to fill the stadium at times now? I don't think so unless we're competing. Pointless unless we're challenging for the title and in the champ league.

As for a year being more than enough time. It can take several years to assemble a team that can challenge for the title. 20 years of doing the wrong things at ownership level can't be fixed in one year. That's just unrealistic. You should see some early signs that the owners intend to do better. I think we've seen that. You're asking for too much too soon. And not even asking for the right thing.

It's not even clear that we could fill a larger stadium anyway. We already have plenty of fans who just don't have the money. You can't build a bigger stadium and then reduce the ticket prices much. That defeats the whole object of increasing capacity in the first place! Can we fill a 60,000-70,000 stadium at increased ticket prices when we already have fans unable to fill the stadium at times now? I don't think so unless we're competing. Pointless unless we're challenging for the title and in the champ league.

No, many won't be able to afford it. Which is why wanting the new stadium to be built, that we won't even be able to fill is the wrong thing right now.

Committing to a new stadium could be something that cripples this club and finishes it. When I read people suggesting that Henry shoudl just jump in and commit the club to half a billion of debt, nore than the entire club is worth, for a stadium that most won't be able to afford attending regularly, I wonder what they're thinking.

Without success that will increase the fanbase so that we have enough who CAN attend, a new stadium is pointless to me, and actually dangerous.

Henry's background is as a commodities trader. He knows about risk and reward. You're suggesting taking on lots of risk for very little reward (unless ticket prices went up too and we could get more income.

I do think we should get a new stadium, but it has to follow succes on the pitch, it has to give a great deal more income to be worth it, and we have to be able to fill it. None of those are the case right now.

I personaly dont think the fan base is reliable enough to be building big Stadiums, If it was back in the 70's and 80s and we had there success now I would feel alot more confident. I think we only have to look at last season around about xmas and new year when fans were unhappy with Hodgson and results, the attendences dropped to below 40,000 and this is what I mean about unreliable fans. I think when your fan base is built up mostly on gloryhunters there is a need to always feed them with success because they are so fickle, United are the other Club similar to us in that respect but have gotten away with it because of there current success, we have gone the opposite way we have not fed our fans anything for seven years, never mind one champions league in 28 years and no leagues 22 years, so they will soon get even more fed up as seasons go by.
I really dont think it's good to be saddling the Club with debt for a new stadium which will give us only about 12,000 more seats, dont forget there needs to be money left to buy players too on top of that and even then you are still in a league with United, Chelsea and the mighty Man City.

fickle?? says the man who was calling for kennys head after 4 league games.

whats it got to do with you anyway, it's not as though I was having a go at your manager Sir Alex Ferguson now is it.