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Originally Posted By: flames
i agree with booing where neccessary too funny enough.

the mount of money involved in football, its one of the few powers the fans have to influence things.
If fans never vented there frustrations publicaly it would probably took a bit longer to get shut of Hicks and Gillette also you know Keane at Blackburn is close to leaving due to fans protesting at every home game and you will see it again next time Newcastle play at home after seeing Mike Ashley sell the naming of there belovered St James Park. Wether people like it or not booing does provoke reactions and is still the best way ordinary fans can get there message across, lets face it us supporters voices within the game are becoming more and more meanigless as it is amongst giant corporations, rich owners and footballers and corporate hospitality guest's who only come for fine wines and good scoff where they can occasionaly look up from there menues and catch a glimpse of a ball being kicked around a park.

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Originally Posted By: Marko2709
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It's hard not to notice that there have been hundreds and hundreds of posts belittling Kenny and his achievments aswell as the players


i take your point. Those who criticise need to offer alternatives but what are these 'achievements' you speak of

The only thing Kenny and the team have achieved thus far this season is in dampening the expectations of those fans who did genuinely thing we had a good shout for getting back into the CL this season

Drawing to the likes of Norwich and Swansea infront of our own fans simply isn't good enough - not by a long way when you look at the cost of their squads and ours

Daglish and his players are getting stick at the moment because they are underachieving on a big scale


Since you asked "what achievments?", allow me to answer. The change of mood in the dressing room is a big achievment, the fact that players are actually disgruntled at not winning games against the mancs and so on is a big achievment. Kenny has reignited the hunger that players who played for LFC once had and that was missing for the past 4 or 5 years! The unity in the club is another big achievment! Building a squad which will be able to fight at the very top of europe in years to come is a big achievment. Having the world talking about LFC is a hude commercial achievment! Not so long ago people were laughing at us whilst the Hicks and Gillet were in power, then when Hodgson took over. We were a luaghing stock in the footballing world. Kenny and Commolli have changed that. There are people talking about the club in a positive manner, there is a sense that we will soon be back at the top of our game and the top of league! The one thing that needed to be changed first, before anything, was to create a positive atmosphere and let the players and fans know that there is a bright future in store and that the club is going forward. That was no easy task after the slump we have been in! That alone is a big enough achievment to earn Kenny and the guys in control more respect and patience from the fans! Rome wasn't built in a day and any great team takes time to develop! I have said it before and will say it again, ONLY KIDS EXPECT INSTANT GRATIFICATION! If you want something you have to work hard for it!

If you were to ask me what Kenny's greatest achievment has been since returning in a managing role, I would have to say returning confidence, belief and smiles to the players at the club!


Well said, Marko!


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Well, sadly the fact we have gone about 20 years without a league victory, and soon 7 years without a single cup victory could have somethying to do with the knee jerk shîte we're showing off.

I think a lot of fans are simply running out of patience.

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Originally Posted By: van Gogh
Well, sadly the fact we have gone about 20 years without a league victory, and soon 7 years without a single cup victory could have somethying to do with the knee jerk shîte we're showing off.

I think a lot of fans are simply running out of patience.
I dont think how long comes into it if you can clearly see it is'nt working, you only have to look at last season, people knew Roy Hodgson was'nt the answer after the City game which was the second game of the season and that was after we were robbed by Arsenal in the first when Reina threw the ball in the net. The Club made a massive school boy error when they appointed Dalglish when they broke the golden rule of business which is never let sentiment get in the way, we are now witnessing the fall out from that terrible mistake...

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Funny that reclaim, ''how long ''came into it for you and your other multriple personalities when RH was in charge...

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Originally Posted By: crownpaints1986
Originally Posted By: van Gogh
Well, sadly the fact we have gone about 20 years without a league victory, and soon 7 years without a single cup victory could have somethying to do with the knee jerk shîte we're showing off.

I think a lot of fans are simply running out of patience.
I dont think how long comes into it if you can clearly see it is'nt working, you only have to look at last season, people knew Roy Hodgson was'nt the answer after the City game which was the second game of the season and that was after we were robbed by Arsenal in the first when Reina threw the ball in the net. The Club made a massive school boy error when they appointed Dalglish when they broke the golden rule of business which is never let sentiment get in the way, we are now witnessing the fall out from that terrible mistake...


A couple of absolutely stupid points raised by you there. Hardly surprising though. I've never seen anybody on this forum who shows such a consistent level of talking absolutely sh*te. I actually refuse to believe that you actually mean this stuff you say, because I can't grasp that anybody could be this warped and deluded - let alone a Liverpool FC fan.

How the f*ck can you compare Kenny's current reign to Hodgson's one? INSANE. There's no comparison. It was obviously under Roy that it wasn't happening at all. The football we were playing was awful. We were getting outclassed by everybody we played, no matter who it was. Right now, we're outplaying almost every team we play, we're just not finishing off enough of our chances. That will change, but I don't know how you can say it's "clearly not working" - are you watching any of the games at all or just looking the results up at full time and forming a judgement on that??

Sentiment didn't get in the way. He came in as caretaker manager with the club and team in turmoil and he climbed us 10 places up the f*cking table. Only the top 2 teams got more points than us from when he took over. Based on this great work, ANYBODY who did this would have got the job full-time. It wasn't just because he's Kenny Dalglish. You're just blinded by your unbelievable dislike of Kenny - for reasons I can't even comprehend. Cop yourself on and stop being the resident clown.


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Originally Posted By: BarLennon
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Originally Posted By: van Gogh
Well, sadly the fact we have gone about 20 years without a league victory, and soon 7 years without a single cup victory could have somethying to do with the knee jerk shîte we're showing off.

I think a lot of fans are simply running out of patience.
I dont think how long comes into it if you can clearly see it is'nt working, you only have to look at last season, people knew Roy Hodgson was'nt the answer after the City game which was the second game of the season and that was after we were robbed by Arsenal in the first when Reina threw the ball in the net. The Club made a massive school boy error when they appointed Dalglish when they broke the golden rule of business which is never let sentiment get in the way, we are now witnessing the fall out from that terrible mistake...


A couple of absolutely stupid points raised by you there. Hardly surprising though. I've never seen anybody on this forum who shows such a consistent level of talking absolutely sh*te. I actually refuse to believe that you actually mean this stuff you say, because I can't grasp that anybody could be this warped and deluded - let alone a Liverpool FC fan.

How the f*ck can you compare Kenny's current reign to Hodgson's one? INSANE. There's no comparison. It was obviously under Roy that it wasn't happening at all. The football we were playing was awful. We were getting outclassed by everybody we played, no matter who it was. Right now, we're outplaying almost every team we play, we're just not finishing off enough of our chances. That will change, but I don't know how you can say it's "clearly not working" - are you watching any of the games at all or just looking the results up at full time and forming a judgement on that??

Sentiment didn't get in the way. He came in as caretaker manager with the club and team in turmoil and he climbed us 10 places up the f*cking table. Only the top 2 teams got more points than us from when he took over. Based on this great work, ANYBODY who did this would have got the job full-time. It wasn't just because he's Kenny Dalglish. You're just blinded by your unbelievable dislike of Kenny - for reasons I can't even comprehend. Cop yourself on and stop being the resident clown.
What a person like you is failing to take into consideration is that Dalglish started with a settled Club with no turmoil, players sulking or going on strike, all fans against him and also plenty of money to spend, if Dalglish has f*cked up with everything he has had up to now imagine how bad we would of been if he had to take over when Hodgson did.

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Originally Posted By: crownpaints1986
Originally Posted By: BarLennon
Originally Posted By: crownpaints1986
Originally Posted By: van Gogh
Well, sadly the fact we have gone about 20 years without a league victory, and soon 7 years without a single cup victory could have somethying to do with the knee jerk shîte we're showing off.

I think a lot of fans are simply running out of patience.
I dont think how long comes into it if you can clearly see it is'nt working, you only have to look at last season, people knew Roy Hodgson was'nt the answer after the City game which was the second game of the season and that was after we were robbed by Arsenal in the first when Reina threw the ball in the net. The Club made a massive school boy error when they appointed Dalglish when they broke the golden rule of business which is never let sentiment get in the way, we are now witnessing the fall out from that terrible mistake...


A couple of absolutely stupid points raised by you there. Hardly surprising though. I've never seen anybody on this forum who shows such a consistent level of talking absolutely sh*te. I actually refuse to believe that you actually mean this stuff you say, because I can't grasp that anybody could be this warped and deluded - let alone a Liverpool FC fan.

How the f*ck can you compare Kenny's current reign to Hodgson's one? INSANE. There's no comparison. It was obviously under Roy that it wasn't happening at all. The football we were playing was awful. We were getting outclassed by everybody we played, no matter who it was. Right now, we're outplaying almost every team we play, we're just not finishing off enough of our chances. That will change, but I don't know how you can say it's "clearly not working" - are you watching any of the games at all or just looking the results up at full time and forming a judgement on that??

Sentiment didn't get in the way. He came in as caretaker manager with the club and team in turmoil and he climbed us 10 places up the f*cking table. Only the top 2 teams got more points than us from when he took over. Based on this great work, ANYBODY who did this would have got the job full-time. It wasn't just because he's Kenny Dalglish. You're just blinded by your unbelievable dislike of Kenny - for reasons I can't even comprehend. Cop yourself on and stop being the resident clown.
What a person like you is failing to take into consideration is that Dalglish started with a settled Club with no turmoil, players sulking or going on strike, all fans against him and also plenty of money to spend, if Dalglish has f*cked up with everything he has had up to now imagine how bad we would of been if he had to take over when Hodgson did.
i agree with that very true .

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Originally Posted By: Rafarendum
is utter nonsense.


R u suprised?

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