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Originally Posted By: irish kopite
i like the german guy loew, his teams play great attacking football, but id still rather keep kenny in charge, people seem to forget just how bad we were last season till he saved us.
And forget about how bad we currently are given all the money he has spent...

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firstly, Dalglish should never of been appointed in the first place it was a terribly nieve decision which was based purely and simply on sentiment, Henry is supposed be be this shrewd business man amazed he was swayed by stupid fan power, he should of known you never get business and sentiment mixed up.

If I was asked who I would want to take over, there is something I think we need to understand first, No matter who Liverpool Football Club appoint they are never going to return us to the pinnacle we were at back in the days for the simple reason the Club is no longer the same one or as powerful as it used to be. I think while football is at it is at the moment with massive, giant corporate powerful people behind Clubs like at City and Chelsea not to mention United who will be probably getting sold to the Quatar Royal family within the next 18 months or so we will not be winning Leagues anymore while things stand.
I was in the summer all in favour of a young and vibrant manager with fresh ideas, eager to make a name for himself in the game to come in, unfortunately the Club bottled it and played safe with a manager 20 years past his sell by date. Because we need a plan which will take upwards of about 8 years We needed a manager who was going to lay foundations and more importanly be there to hopefuly to see it bare fruit a bit, this was never on when you appoint old manager's like Hodgson and Dalglish. If I were to stick my neck out I would'nt mind managers like the feller at Dortmund, Martinez at Wigan or as mentioned before maybe a Laudrup, this for me is the road I would like to see us go down.


Yaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwn!

Nauseating rubbish-speak is getting sooooo repetitive.

You can bring in any and all of these wonder managers and they'd all struggle with our current restrictions. You'd then call for all their heads after another 11 games. We've had some disappointing results but we sit 3 points out of the CL spots and look a couple of quality players light. Rather than keeping the faith and allowing Kenny to add those players in January - you're proposing a complete rebuilding and the start of another two year cycle. It's beyond knee-jerk and so utterly short-sighted.

What Kenny needs is the chance to show that he's not as stubborn and unwilling to learn as Rafa was. He'll know that his new signings haven't quite delivered - and he'll know that we need a couple more Suarez/Gerrard quality players come January. But no - let's give him the boot and take a punt on a new manager, new philosophy, and have a fire-sale. After all the greatest legend of the club has had 11 games and is one win off the pace - let's bin him and roll the dice!


YEAH CLOWN martinez not bad lost 50 percent of matches played as manager of wigan - won 1 in 4, don't need opta stats to show hes a great manager

Also lost 8 nil to chelsea and another against someone else 9-1

well- that would certainly put paid to these 0-0 KD draws

Jog on crusty
alrite so lets go with your way of thinking, Brian Clough was sh*te at Leeds, Fergie at East Sterling and St Mirren and Sir Bob and Joe Fagin were not even managers dont not what your trying to say, just because things dont go to plan or work out for a manager at one Club does'nt mean it cant work at another, some managers just suit certain Clubs while some simply dont fit.

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Originally Posted By: crownpaints1986
Originally Posted By: Armitage
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Originally Posted By: crownpaints1986
firstly, Dalglish should never of been appointed in the first place it was a terribly nieve decision which was based purely and simply on sentiment, Henry is supposed be be this shrewd business man amazed he was swayed by stupid fan power, he should of known you never get business and sentiment mixed up.

If I was asked who I would want to take over, there is something I think we need to understand first, No matter who Liverpool Football Club appoint they are never going to return us to the pinnacle we were at back in the days for the simple reason the Club is no longer the same one or as powerful as it used to be. I think while football is at it is at the moment with massive, giant corporate powerful people behind Clubs like at City and Chelsea not to mention United who will be probably getting sold to the Quatar Royal family within the next 18 months or so we will not be winning Leagues anymore while things stand.
I was in the summer all in favour of a young and vibrant manager with fresh ideas, eager to make a name for himself in the game to come in, unfortunately the Club bottled it and played safe with a manager 20 years past his sell by date. Because we need a plan which will take upwards of about 8 years We needed a manager who was going to lay foundations and more importanly be there to hopefuly to see it bare fruit a bit, this was never on when you appoint old manager's like Hodgson and Dalglish. If I were to stick my neck out I would'nt mind managers like the feller at Dortmund, Martinez at Wigan or as mentioned before maybe a Laudrup, this for me is the road I would like to see us go down.


Yaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwn!

Nauseating rubbish-speak is getting sooooo repetitive.

You can bring in any and all of these wonder managers and they'd all struggle with our current restrictions. You'd then call for all their heads after another 11 games. We've had some disappointing results but we sit 3 points out of the CL spots and look a couple of quality players light. Rather than keeping the faith and allowing Kenny to add those players in January - you're proposing a complete rebuilding and the start of another two year cycle. It's beyond knee-jerk and so utterly short-sighted.

What Kenny needs is the chance to show that he's not as stubborn and unwilling to learn as Rafa was. He'll know that his new signings haven't quite delivered - and he'll know that we need a couple more Suarez/Gerrard quality players come January. But no - let's give him the boot and take a punt on a new manager, new philosophy, and have a fire-sale. After all the greatest legend of the club has had 11 games and is one win off the pace - let's bin him and roll the dice!


YEAH CLOWN martinez not bad lost 50 percent of matches played as manager of wigan - won 1 in 4, don't need opta stats to show hes a great manager

Also lost 8 nil to chelsea and another against someone else 9-1

well- that would certainly put paid to these 0-0 KD draws

Jog on crusty
alrite so lets go with your way of thinking, Brian Clough was sh*te at Leeds, Fergie at East Sterling and St Mirren and Sir Bob and Joe Fagin were not even managers dont not what your trying to say, just because things dont go to plan or work out for a manager at one Club does'nt mean it cant work at another, some managers just suit certain Clubs while some simply dont fit.


you are mad

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No worse. Madness has excuse. Ignorance has none.

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Seriously speaking, my number one pick would be Joachim Lowe from Germany. Would be great having him because he is very young and seems to know what he is doing tactically. Surely he must want a change of scene after managing Germany for a while now. I will back Kenny all the way and see where we are at the end of the season but if there was a chance to change it would be Lowe for me.


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Can't believe we are even talking about a new manager at this stage. Things haven't gone 100% to plan so far but FFS! I can't really believe what is going on in here lately. We need some sanity back and quick before this place becomes un-usable.

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Well to be fair only a minority are calling for Kenny's head at the moment. Not suprisingly its the same bunch who are always not happy about anything that happens.

Also I think whether we like it or not, Kenny is staying put for his entire contract as long as he is pleasing the owners. 4th place will be extremely difficult no doubt about it, but if we achieve that or win a trophy then Kenny will be safe for another season. I just hope things turn to the right direction soon because Kenny is a good man and he deserves his chance.


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Originally Posted By: Snakeye
Well to be fair only a minority are calling for Kenny's head at the moment. Not suprisingly its the same bunch who are always not happy about anything that happens.

Also I think whether we like it or not, Kenny is staying put for his entire contract as long as he is pleasing the owners. 4th place will be extremely difficult no doubt about it, but if we achieve that or win a trophy then Kenny will be safe for another season. I just hope things turn to the right direction soon because Kenny is a good man and he deserves his chance.


We are only talking about a new manager because Clown thinks being a Liverpool Supporter means so after 11 games.

You know the old one about not arguing with a fool, well if people stopped he and others of the same ilk would soon get bored and wither away.

Constructive criticism from time to time is just not in the vocabulary obviously.


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Yep, I'll support that from both of you guys. Constructive criticism...long time no see! Would be so nice to see real analysis of how we play, its strengths and weakness, together with suggested alternatives, rather than the mindless player and manager bashing that goes on. Maybe thats asking too much from some of these guys?

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Originally Posted By: Snakeye
Seriously speaking, my number one pick would be Joachim Lowe from Germany. Would be great having him because he is very young and seems to know what he is doing tactically. Surely he must want a change of scene after managing Germany for a while now. I will back Kenny all the way and see where we are at the end of the season but if there was a chance to change it would be Lowe for me.


The man eats his own snot...I cannot trust him. he does not live up to LFC standards. Take a look for yourself http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOOKdKdESpk


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