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Kenny seems to respect him, and I think it would be a great call to hire him as a lead scout and a coach (if he would be willing to do it). I don't think he needs to be manager again after the problems he made, but he has talent that could help the club if he isn't holding the reigns. Rafa has great tactics and a good eye for talent, but he doesn't have two necessary ingredients for being a manager that Kenny does: the ability to command respect, loyalty, and trust from his players and the ability to handle the press. Kenny has people skills that he doesn't. If Kenny continues to do those things I think we could use Rafa in a smaller role.
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look benitez did and does get credit for 2005 and 2006 cup wins and no doubts the 2006 team was a top team , but once pako left and cracks started to appear in mr benitez's style , he became more toxic more confrontational , then the moaning and the bad play and real bad signings came along , yes liverpool finished 2nd but there is no doubt the rant just spured on alex ferguson and manchester united ,then the fights with players starting with xabi alonso and then losing the dressing room and the support of main liverpool players in gerrard, carragher and reina , so the bad outweighs any good he did so he was right to go and the problems continued into the next season , were roy hodgson could not stop the decline that was already in progress and the child like torres and striking mascherano which was a hang over from the benitez era , yes i will agree the owners didnt help him but benitez didnt help himself and in no way should he be liverpool manager again , liverpool dont need that conflict he brings to the game no more . I agree with the majority of this
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Kenny seems to respect him, and I think it would be a great call to hire him as a lead scout and a coach (if he would be willing to do it). I don't think he needs to be manager again after the problems he made, but he has talent that could help the club if he isn't holding the reigns. Rafa has great tactics and a good eye for talent, but he doesn't have two necessary ingredients for being a manager that Kenny does: the ability to command respect, loyalty, and trust from his players and the ability to handle the press. Kenny has people skills that he doesn't. If Kenny continues to do those things I think we could use Rafa in a smaller role. with the massive ego benitez has he would never take up a role like that .
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Probably not. I alluded to that parenthetically. Still though, it's better than where he is now. He wants to get back into football, and this would be a way to do it.
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My point is that they would complement each other quite well. They both have winning attitudes and very different strengths. Dalglish is a better leader and inspirer, Rafa is a better planner and organizer. A manager that can do all of those things is quite a manager indeed.
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My point is that they would complement each other quite well. They both have winning attitudes and very different strengths. Dalglish is a better leader and inspirer, Rafa is a better planner and organizer. A manager that can do all of those things is quite a manager indeed. Agreed
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look benitez did and does get credit for 2005 and 2006 cup wins and no doubts the 2006 team was a top team , but once pako left and cracks started to appear in mr benitez's style , he became more toxic more confrontational , then the moaning and the bad play and real bad signings came along , yes liverpool finished 2nd but there is no doubt the rant just spured on alex ferguson and manchester united ,then the fights with players starting with xabi alonso and then losing the dressing room and the support of main liverpool players in gerrard, carragher and reina , so the bad outweighs any good he did so he was right to go and the problems continued into the next season , were roy hodgson could not stop the decline that was already in progress and the child like torres and striking mascherano which was a hang over from the benitez era , yes i will agree the owners didnt help him but benitez didnt help himself and in no way should he be liverpool manager again , liverpool dont need that conflict he brings to the game no more . Faz, I understand your point of view and of course you are entitled to it. Perhaps though, as many put too much blame solely on the shoulders of the yankees, you are puting too much blame on Rafa. I know he wasn't thye best at man management but I feel that a lot of that was caused by the entire internal situation at the club. Here's a manager trying to get the deserved respect from his players and establish a certain chain of command, yet he is being sabotaged at every oppurtunity by the higher powers. It doesn't exactly send out a picture of authhority at the club and perhaps that transferred to the dressing room a bit too. His decision were "odd" sometimes, to say the least, but I think he still had a lot to offer as a manager. As far as Hodgson not being able to repare the damage he left, I think that is absolute [oops]. Hodgson never was a manager worthy of the liverpool job. He is a manager who plays ugly, defensive, hoof the ball football. The players spoke out against his style several times. Look at how quickly Kenny transformed the team and how he lifted spirits, that just goes to show that Hodgsons failures were down to his negative approach. He look way out of place in Liverpool. Well that's my opinion at least. Anyway, i don't think he needs to replace Kenny, I don't think anyone should replace Kenny as I feel he is doing a good job. I think our squad needs a bit more firepower and we will be just fine. However, I do feel that a partnership between Kenny and Rafa could have us at the top of the EPL and europe for years to come. I don't think the players would even object to that, I feel they still have a lot of respect for him now that heads have cooled off.
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Here's an interesting link with Rafa's career stats. How many of you would like to see us finish in the same positions with the same number of trophies as we did while he was in charge? I would take that, and pray and support like mad to win the EPL too. Take a look at his stats. http://www.liverpool-kop.com/2010/05/exclusive-rafa-benitezs-total-career.html
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