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Originally Posted By: crownpaints1986
There seems to be alot of unhappy and disallusioned fans at present, what I want to know is how long do we give it before we accept there needs to be a change.
I myself think xmas is ample time enough and if we are still outside the top four and still getting mediocre results as in 2 wins, a draw and a defeat out of every four games or so then I fully expect John Henry to be brave and do the right thing for the football Club.

I think the sentimental aspect of Dalglish's appointment has worked up to a certain point as in steadying the ship and pulling people together but now we are at the stage where we needed to step up to the next level but unfortunately it's looking like Dalglish has been clearly found out and is hoplessly out of his depth with his baffling team selections, terrible tactics and poor judgement in the transfer market, can we trust this man with January's tranfer kitty given what he has spent on in the past.

Agreed lets get hodgson back and go back to the good old days of staving off relegation like we were this time last year oh no wait thats a stupid idea


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jesus h christ!!! the only unhappy fans are the same bunch of unhappy sods that would moan if we won everything!


Nobody expects us to be up there with Man City but I'm very unhappy with the way things have panned out this season given how strongly we finished last season and given how much we invested over summer

Daglish has been somewhat found out

recent results simply aren't good enough. We don't have a good enough centre back (Carra's too old, Agger's too fragile, Skrtel's too clumsey and Coates is too inexperienced) and are completely unclinical in front of goal

I keep hearing this we're improving, moving in the right direction

Given the results we were getting at the end of last season - notwithstanding the last 2 games - in my opinion we're going backwards - which isn't really surprising when you replace decent players (merieles) with inferior ones (Henderson) and pay for the priviledge


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Originally Posted By: crownpaints1986
There seems to be alot of unhappy and disallusioned fans at present, what I want to know is how long do we give it before we accept there needs to be a change.
I myself think xmas is ample time enough and if we are still outside the top four and still getting mediocre results as in 2 wins, a draw and a defeat out of every four games or so then I fully expect John Henry to be brave and do the right thing for the football Club.

I think the sentimental aspect of Dalglish's appointment has worked up to a certain point as in steadying the ship and pulling people together but now we are at the stage where we needed to step up to the next level but unfortunately it's looking like Dalglish has been clearly found out and is hoplessly out of his depth with his baffling team selections, terrible tactics and poor judgement in the transfer market, can we trust this man with January's tranfer kitty given what he has spent on in the past.

Agreed lets get hodgson back and go back to the good old days of staving off relegation like we were this time last year oh no wait thats a stupid idea


One thing for hodgson you knew where you were with him - at the bottom of the table

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Originally Posted By: crownpaints1986
I really do admire peoples loyalty towards Dalglish but just cant help thinking it's misplaced, I think if any manager apart from Dalglish had had the start we have, having spent as much money as we have, then I dont think people would'nt of been as forgiving. We have two massive games looming this week which in all honesty could shape the season, lets just hope we get the right results or this post could be going into meltdown.


I'm begining to agree

Massive game tonight - which sadly I just can't see us winning

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Originally Posted By: Jim Tonez
Originally Posted By: deakin
jesus h christ!!! the only unhappy fans are the same bunch of unhappy sods that would moan if we won everything!


Nobody expects us to be up there with Man City but I'm very unhappy with the way things have panned out this season given how strongly we finished last season and given how much we invested over summer

Daglish has been somewhat found out

recent results simply aren't good enough. We don't have a good enough centre back (Carra's too old, Agger's too fragile, Skrtel's too clumsey and Coates is too inexperienced) and are completely unclinical in front of goal

I keep hearing this we're improving, moving in the right direction

Given the results we were getting at the end of last season - notwithstanding the last 2 games - in my opinion we're going backwards - which isn't really surprising when you replace decent players (merieles) with inferior ones (Henderson) and pay for the priviledge

Jim you're starting to repeat yourself...not a good sign! Merieles is gone, most people on here are not bothered as he was just about squad standard...on his good days. Henderson shows promise and may well become a great midfield option, that is something Merieles would never achieve in the PL. so let us move on please!

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Originally Posted By: deakin
jesus h christ!!! the only unhappy fans are the same bunch of unhappy sods that would moan if we won everything!


Nobody expects us to be up there with Man City but I'm very unhappy with the way things have panned out this season given how strongly we finished last season and given how much we invested over summer

Daglish has been somewhat found out

recent results simply aren't good enough. We don't have a good enough centre back (Carra's too old, Agger's too fragile, Skrtel's too clumsey and Coates is too inexperienced) and are completely unclinical in front of goal

I keep hearing this we're improving, moving in the right direction

Given the results we were getting at the end of last season - notwithstanding the last 2 games - in my opinion we're going backwards - which isn't really surprising when you replace decent players (merieles) with inferior ones (Henderson) and pay for the priviledge

Jim you're starting to repeat yourself...not a good sign! Merieles is gone, most people on here are not bothered as he was just about squad standard...on his good days. Henderson shows promise and may well become a great midfield option, that is something Merieles would never achieve in the PL. so let us move on please!


He's not starting to repeat him, he hasn't stopped banging on about Meireles/Henderson since the transfer window closed. It's the past now, it's time to get over it and move on. To be perfectly honest, I couldn't give a flying f*ck that we sold Meireles. I really honestly couldn't. Jim, and probably a few others are devastated he was sold. That's their opinion, but I have mine too - and that's that I don't f*cking care. I didn't care at the time, and I certainly don't care now - 2 months later!


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But Jim has valid points about our CBs and sub-standard finishing.


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Yes he does but we are still playing reasonably well. If it weren't for a few stupid lapses and some poor finishing then we would have won at least 2 more games.....Tactically I think we have been OK and you can't blame Dalglish for a player who lapses in concentration or a player who doesn't finish his chances!

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No but we haven't had a world-class finisher since Fowler in his prime (with the possible exception of Torres) so you may ask questions of recent managers, including Dalglish, as to why this problem has not been addressed, when funds have been made available.

It's not Carroll's fault we paid £35m for him. However, when such a sum is spent on a centre forward, you expect to get a proven clinical finisher. Therefore, should/could that £35m have been better spent?


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Originally Posted By: Jim Tonez
Originally Posted By: crownpaints1986
I really do admire peoples loyalty towards Dalglish but just cant help thinking it's misplaced, I think if any manager apart from Dalglish had had the start we have, having spent as much money as we have, then I dont think people would'nt of been as forgiving. We have two massive games looming this week which in all honesty could shape the season, lets just hope we get the right results or this post could be going into meltdown.


I'm begining to agree

Massive game tonight - which sadly I just can't see us winning



Jim you were wrong there!

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