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Originally Posted By: Jim Tonez
Savage is surprisingly good - as is Stan Collymore
it is surprising but savage is one of the best out there. he says it the way he sees it, no messing about

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Well as we all remember we had 11 draws the 2008-2009 season. That costed us the title, even though we broke our own point record (86 points from 25 wins, 11 draws and just 2 lost).

Here are the draws:

Aug Aston Villa (A) 0 - 0
Sep Stoke (H) 0 - 0
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Nov Fulham (H) 0 - 0
Dec West Ham (H) 0 - 0
Dec Hull (H) 2 - 2
Dec Arsenal (A) 1 - 1
Jan Stoke (A) 0 - 0
Jan Everton (H) 1 - 1
Jan Wigan (A) 1 - 1
Feb Man City (H) 1 - 1
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Apr Arsenal (H) 4 - 4
May --------------

From that table I conclude that at least 4 of the draws were uncalled for (Fulham, West Ham, Hull at home and Wigan away). Had we converted just 2 of those into wins, then the league title had been ours. At Anfield against Fulham and West Ham we didn't even score one goal!

When did we lose the title then? Well IMO in hindsight it was as early as between Nov 22:nd - Dec 21:st where we managed to draw 4 EPL games out of 5. Just one win in that period (against Blackburn away). The last draw of those was against Arsenal away, so that one doesn't really count as a bad one.

Oh, and the losses came against Spuds (A) in november and Middlesbrough (A) in February. Why the fëck did we lose against Middlesbrough? A shame that one! frown

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On a side note we had the following stats against "Top 4":

Man U (H) 2 - 1
Chelsea (A) 0 - 1
Arsenal (A) 1 - 1
Chelsea (H) 2 - 0
Man U (A) 1 - 4
Arsenal (H) 4 - 4

All in all 4 wins and 2 draws. 14 points collected out of 18. Not bad at all!

In other words we lost the title against inferior teams!

That year we should really have won the title!

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Unfortunately that's what utd are best at. More often than not they murder poor sides

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Hell yeah!

We up our efforts against bigger sides, but constantly fail against the Wolves and Wigans!

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