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mmm think I'm going against the grain here but I think its wise from a LFC point of view to look at this. Our vast overseas support is one of the main advantages we have over other clubs. We're already at a major disadvantage financially to chels, 2 manchester clubs. I know its kinda [oops] for the lower teams but in my selfish opinion whatever it takes to make us competitive is worth looking at. I'm also sick of paying for ss and setanta to watch bolton and sunderland, wouldn't a LFC channel that shows live games be worth a subscription

It would be short-sighted for Liverpool FC not to take advantage of such a large fan base, especially overseas. Creating an LFC channel that would go international would be the way forward. There are no caps on football spending and there never will be. Clubs will first look at their health and Liverpool FC should too. I don't think the EPL will go the way of the SPL or La Liga, the dynamics are different. Or we could be sucking our thumbs down the road wishing we had done more. Then again a mega rich Arab could come along and buy the club, of course I suppose that would be "fair play".

I know Faz hates the Mail but great article here which puts it in perspective. I like Martin Samuel he gets to the bub of the issue. For those who don't want to read essentially he is saying there will be less money because Liverpool will get a bigger percentage of a smaller pot as fans turn away from the game which will be totally run by TV. Fixtures will be alterred to suit viewing preferences and ratings football will become no more than a TV show. What a dreadful prospect still I will be at least £1200 a year better off and I will spend the hard earned on some other interest.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footbal...tin-Samuel.html

Liverpool arent in a position to dictate. OK the liverpool brand sells, but look how relatively quickly a big team can tumble. Arsenal for example (who I think are 'finished' under wenger)

Younger fans are a bit more fickle and whilst i think lfc will alwayys be an international brand that sells shirts noone can predict the future, imagine if hodgson had taken the club to relegation, the fans in asia wouldnt see lfc anymore and most likely wouldnt buy the shirt in the same numbers.

This 'deal' would seem to be linked to international companies only, on the face of it it looks 'just' because it appears that the resources are being pumped directly into the team, but when you have a hicks and gillette in charge, where is the control. As the system stands there is at least some control and some sense of proportion to the tv rights.

Apart from anything else football is supposed to be and is a universal game. why try and individualise the revenues when there are 20 teams who take part. I don't agree with this 'dog eat dog' argument. Every society has rules , the game itself has rules during the 90 minutes. Regulation is needed. Who is to say all owners of all clubs have the club's interests at heart.

The only interesting part I see in all this is that I can well imagine the premiership is under pressure from international tv companies to lower costs and come up with something better than present system whereby it seems half the world is watching games via foreign tv stations rather than through sky. It maywell be that the sky premiership system which is up for renewal in 2012 will have to change and maybe this idea of nesv is to put pressure on

Agreed that regulation is needed. Or the end result would be the same. A few clubs owned by rich owners owning the league. A'la La Liga. TV rights money would not mean a thing. The 6 million dollar question is, would regulation, proper regulation, take place?

No direct confirmation but radio city said this morning that John Henry held talks with scum last month about the TV rights and that manu are staying quiet for the moment!

Can't see it ever going through as no Club would vote to have a lesser share of the television money so even if the big four Clubs of United, City, Arsenal and Chelsea all agreed with Ayres it still would'nt be enough votes. I just think it's desperation on our part for the simple fact Chelsea and City dont need more money to compete because of there owners, Arsenal to a lesser extent because of there stadium and United simply because there United, the only thing we really have going for us is support.

I think what fans have to ask themselves is, is do we really want to sell the Club's lifeblood which is the bread and butter domestic game as shanks once described down the tubes which would happen if this went through just so we can try and stay with the big Clubs in this country as well as Madrid and Barca's of this world.
I happen to like our league the way it is and regard it as the best and most competetative in the world, Ayres and that Chairman of ours are just speaking on behalf of a greedy owner we have. The reason Henry fought so hard in the courts for the Club was because he knew the value of the television rights, he even mentioned it within two days of getting his feet under the table which shows he always had an eye on it, he is just sounding out his intentions and testing the water, I can see him turning the heat up the nearer we get to the television deal being renogotiated in 2013, watch this space.

Ayre has shot his self there, everyone is giving us bad publicity because of his breakaway comments. Bad fking idea and it will kill the league so he should of just kept his mouth shut.

Unfortunately the chairman also backed up his claim add this to what Henry mentioned about television rights when he first took over and it's a massive own goal by the Club. The saddest part for me is that it's totaly against the principles of what the Club was set up for by Shanks when he quoted "The socialism I believe in is everybody working for the same goal and everybody having a share in the rewards. That's how I see football, that's how I see life." Think this proves we are no longer the same Club just an american franchise.

correct about this , yes ok it would bring revenue into the club yes great but that is not what its about , if people in the far east switching on there televisions is the new god then sadly the football club as the club built by shankly is gone only living in its brand franchise name as a product not a football team .