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Ferdinand and Vidic will be back for the game. Ferguson will not leave this to chance. Individually they have many weakness but together they compliment each other. They only people that have failed to stop is Leo Messi and Torres.
I dont think Carroll will pose them much problems BUT he could ruffle their feathers a little and leave some space for Suarez and the others to capitalize.
We will need to score at least 2 goals to beat them cause they always score at least one in most games. He hasn't ruffled any feathers yet and he certainly hasn't been remotely intelligent to make space for suarez at all. So why would you assume that he's going to start against one of the best defensive partnerships in the league? Ludicrous. Let's me real big Andy has brought the A game once (vs city), Luis (currently our best player) isn't quite having the impact of last year. They COULD do serious of they're on it. However, vidic is an animal and well capable of taking care of AC.
This is assuming we get them quality ball which we won't because were too slow moving the ball forward.. Suarez has had the impact he did last season when Carroll hasn't been on the field. He needs a much smarter partner upfront, someone like Kuyt or Bellamy who will work in tandum with him, not clog up all the works.
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I'm not sure if anyone noticed, but the games we lost so far this season have been down to Suarez being on a 75 minute tantrum in the absence of a qualified right back. I'll just leave that there for the haters to digest.
In the last two Caroll and Suarez have at least shown the glimmerings of a partnership - that is to say they actually tried to play each other into space for a change. We also hoofed it quite a lot less, and this despite Downing having an off day vs Everton. While our strikers have largely failed in these efforts, there has been improvement in their play and in their understanding.
The same cannot be said of the midfield, which I find more worrying. I've not looked up the stats, but we squander a great many attacking positions due to inaccurate passing or poor decision making in midfield. That's not the fault of Andy Carroll, I assure you. But hey, maybe SG and Kuyt/Bellamy can sort that, eh?
It continues to amaze me how people think players with totally different styles and a language barrier take 5 minutes to come to a complete and wholesome understanding - how long has it taken Gerrard to find his OWN position within the team, ffs? It also amazes me how people can allow a few errors from a player to make the remainder of his efforts in a game totally invisible. It might astonish these people to learn that Carroll has been one of our 3 best players in each of our last 3 games. Why do you bench such a player against your toughest opponent in the season's primary crunch match? (Outside tactical finesse, of course)
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I'm not sure if anyone noticed, but the games we lost so far this season have been down to Suarez being on a 75 minute tantrum in the absence of a qualified right back. I'll just leave that there for the haters to digest.
In the last two Caroll and Suarez have at least shown the glimmerings of a partnership - that is to say they actually tried to play each other into space for a change. We also hoofed it quite a lot less, and this despite Downing having an off day vs Everton. While our strikers have largely failed in these efforts, there has been improvement in their play and in their understanding.
The same cannot be said of the midfield, which I find more worrying. I've not looked up the stats, but we squander a great many attacking positions due to inaccurate passing or poor decision making in midfield. That's not the fault of Andy Carroll, I assure you. But hey, maybe SG and Kuyt/Bellamy can sort that, eh?
It continues to amaze me how people think players with totally different styles and a language barrier take 5 minutes to come to a complete and wholesome understanding - how long has it taken Gerrard to find his OWN position within the team, ffs? It also amazes me how people can allow a few errors from a player to make the remainder of his efforts in a game totally invisible. It might astonish these people to learn that Carroll has been one of our 3 best players in each of our last 3 games. Why do you bench such a player against your toughest opponent in the season's primary crunch match? (Outside tactical finesse, of course) Out of pure ignorance and being yet another sheep in a blinded-by-the-media hate-filled-mob, of course 
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I think Kenny will start him because he has been improving in the last 2 games while getting his goal. I'd like Kenny to change it if its not working tho. His changes against Everton were very good because we had 25mins plus extra time to change the game and we did, however in previous games he leaves it real late.
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I hope Carroll plays because I think he and Suarez are showing signs of a partnership up front. Also, if we manage to win any free kicks anywhere near our box then it should be played in for Carroll to try and run onto it....We had a few over the weekend against Everton and played them short and you could see Carroll telling Adam to put it into the box. It must get frustrating for Carroll but things are turning around between him and Suarez.
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Yeah, I think it's time we start get Carroll going.
Agaist the Scum it's cruical that we have other options than playing it on the floor. Variation is the key!
Some nice crosses from José and SG into the box addressed to Carroll will do the trick, while Suaréz turn that little curly head inside out again!
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I think Kenny will start him because he has been improving in the last 2 games while getting his goal. I'd like Kenny to change it if its not working tho. His changes against Everton were very good because we had 25mins plus extra time to change the game and we did, however in previous games he leaves it real late. i would have liked kenny to make the subs abit earlier, IMO he was 5- 10mins too late
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I'm not sure if anyone noticed, but the games we lost so far this season have been down to Suarez being on a 75 minute tantrum in the absence of a qualified right back. I'll just leave that there for the haters to digest.
In the last two Caroll and Suarez have at least shown the glimmerings of a partnership - that is to say they actually tried to play each other into space for a change. We also hoofed it quite a lot less, and this despite Downing having an off day vs Everton. While our strikers have largely failed in these efforts, there has been improvement in their play and in their understanding.
The same cannot be said of the midfield, which I find more worrying. I've not looked up the stats, but we squander a great many attacking positions due to inaccurate passing or poor decision making in midfield. That's not the fault of Andy Carroll, I assure you. But hey, maybe SG and Kuyt/Bellamy can sort that, eh?
It continues to amaze me how people think players with totally different styles and a language barrier take 5 minutes to come to a complete and wholesome understanding - how long has it taken Gerrard to find his OWN position within the team, ffs? It also amazes me how people can allow a few errors from a player to make the remainder of his efforts in a game totally invisible. It might astonish these people to learn that Carroll has been one of our 3 best players in each of our last 3 games. Why do you bench such a player against your toughest opponent in the season's primary crunch match? (Outside tactical finesse, of course) There is a whole lot of desperate reaching here. They haven't had 5 minutes, they have had enough time to show much more than they have been. These glimmerings are the worst kind of reaching, so far there has been no 'partnership' it has just been two strikers up front who don't really click. They are talented players individually so will always occaisionally pull something off but there have no been signs of a partnership YET. You did make some good points and obviously it is all opinion so I would never say you are completely wrong cause it is just opinion vs opinion but there was one utterly laughable remark, "It might astonish these people to learn that Carroll has been one of our 3 best players in each of our last 3 games", you say that like that is a fact??? When to a lot of people it is complete nonsense. Astonish people to know that in your opinion fair enough, but I'm not astonished by that arrogant remark because in my opinion he was nowhere near top 3 player in at least 2 of those games.
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agree - the fact that he has improved 200 percent (as he was so cack before) makes him look better than he is
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Think you are a bit hard on the partnership mybloodisred, i think there HAVE been bits and pieces where they seem to start to be knowing where the other will be without looking and trying to make the pass but I 100% agree with you about thundyr saying astonish people to know he has been one of the 3 best players in the last 3 games being 1 ludicrous in my opinion and more importantly 2 as you put it 'arrogant' on his behalf stating it like it is a fact when it is based on nothing/at most his opinion.
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