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I've thought the standard of Officials in the epl has been shocking for years. Manures best friend Webb was shown to be a dud to the whole world in the WC final ( and he was supposed too be the best of the epl). We've had a few decisions against us this season and one for us yesterday. I see wolves were robbed yesterday. Every week theres a couple of really bad calls ad well as lots of poor games by the refs. If refs want respect they've to earn it.
However, I'm not into this walking up to refs or away from refs ear bashing them. We should take a leaf from rugby, only the captain talks to the ref. If 3/4 players surround the refs he should book them all. If teams start losing players for backchat it'd soon stop. Problem is they'd clamp down on lesser teams and. big sides would get away with is as usual.
It'd be nice to see 11 v 11, no silliness from officials

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Maybe a salary rise would do them good?

And see to that they aren't on any team's pay roll - i.e. Webb on Manure's!

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i for one am in favour of having a off pitch ref looking at replays and telling the main ref what the decision should be. it would take no longer then it takes the ref to get all the players off his back and then restart the game.

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Agreed!

There are some rules in football that are dodgy at the least.

Refs deciding when to end the game for example. Why don't they apply the same methods as in every other modern game? An official clock that sounds when time's up. Stop the time when the refs blow the whistle and when the ball is off the pitch. That should result in less stalling tactics being applied.

Video war rooms a'la NHL hockey would bee a good idea as well. It doesn't take long to review unclear situations, and as long as the time is stopped it doesn't really matter anyway.

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managerial challenges are a great call. unfortunately those in power don't give a flying #$%* as long as the money comes in from fools like me who pay to see footy either at the ground or on the box

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Originally Posted By: Rafarendum
I think the problem with stopping the clock, is that when they looked at how long the game was if they stopped it for free kicks and injuries etc, the 90 mins turned into about 60 minutes of actual play.

They need to bring in managerial challenges. You get 2 a game or something. Managers would only use them for important decisions like penalties, offside goals. It would hardly slow the game down at all and would be fair. Why won't this happen? Because the people in charge of football are a bunch of corrupt idiots.


Yeah, but what's the problem with playing 60 minutes effective time then? They do it in Hockey for instance (3 x 20 minutes). The point is that if they stopped the clock, then it would be a much more fair game.

Managerial challenges is a good idea, but I think the referees themselves should be allowed to call for video reviews when they feel unsure about a call.

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Actually I like the current rules stopping the clock and going to video referees would slow down the game a lot and it could become unwatchable. Also the controversy of wrong decisions makes some world cup great moments. Decisions also tend to balance themselves out for example yesterday we got a decision but do you remember JCs red against arsenal last year??


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Do it like the rugby - if something is ropey they check it out -mind you the referees seem to be more intelligent in rugby than in football where you get those with 'traffic warden syndrome' in charge

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the refs job has become tougher.the rules now seem to say you cant tackle,you cetainly cant go to ground and tackle.every time player puts in a challenge there seems to be the question of a booking.

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Originally Posted By: kernowred
the refs job has become tougher.the rules now seem to say you cant tackle,you cetainly cant go to ground and tackle.every time player puts in a challenge there seems to be the question of a booking.



Agreed on both points. I'm struggling to think of one of our games this season where the referee's poor decisions haven't turned the game negatively.

The game against Everton basically ruined a balanced spectacle and those paying 50 quid plus for a ticket.

Thing is they don't make the wrong decisions for the sake of it and it's obviously so quick now with so many rules that they quite obviously need help.

Replay technology needs introducing. I don't care if the game is stopped I want the right decisions made and the right results.

We don't know what to take from the weekend encounter; are we progressing or not? The shocking red card makes it very difficult to ascertain anything from it.


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