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The great Liverpool sides of the 80's used to win the Carling cup (or league cup then) every year but it was seen then (as now) as an appetiser. Yes of course I would like us to win the Carl;ing cup and have a day at wembley. But make no mistake if we don't get fouth this year (carling cup or not) then this season will have been an unmitigated disaster. wrong it would not be a unmitigated disaster not finishing 4th what would be an unmitigated disaster is 6 years without a trophy and gerrard is 100% correct "LETS WIN THE CARLING CUP"
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Why does fourth place have to be mentioned every time the carling cup pops up?
Winning this cup only takes 4-5 games so why the hell not? Whether we make the top 4 or not, this competition is not going to distract us that much from focusing on the league. 100% agree snake. What's with people killing the buzz. Why can we only achieve 1 goal this season? I for one think we could win the carling cup, the FA cup and get 4th, it is possible, not just getting forth. We just need to put away our chances, we create enough chances.
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Agree Pops we must take the chances we are presented and had we done that we would be in the top 2 of the premiership!
Why not win the Carling Cup would be great for the confidence of the players and push further up the table in the second half of the season!
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I think the question of whats more important always pops up because over the years we have always prioritised finishing fourth over winning one of the domestic Cups due mainly to the manager we had at the time, The Spanish one. I do think the really big and powerful Clubs like United, City and Chelsea might have a case for putting Champions League success ahead of domestic success but definately not Clubs clubs who dont taste silverware like Ourselves, Spurs, Everton, Villa, Stoke's and Newcastle's of this world and have not done for years, silveraware is far more important even though it's not a Premier League or Champions League where we dont have a hope in hell's chance of ever winning.
I think if we are not careful we could easily turn into 10 seasons without a trophy as it will be 6 at the end of the season, this can snowball into 15 like Everton and then you get into Man City before last season's F.A.Cup win which was well over 25 seasons, they all thought like we did that it would'nt be that long too remember. We need to put a trophy in the cabinet as soon as possible and us not playing at Wembley yet is a disgraceful record considering some of the Clubs which have already been, nobody remembers runners up and losers in football only trophy winners.
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I want us to win everything, that is what a 'top' team would do.
I know we can't take focus off 4th but no reason why we can't have decent cup runs as we don't have to compensate with having to travel all round Europe this season.
If anything I would say not reaching a domestic cup final this year and finishing top 4 would be s disaster having spent all that money rebuilding the squad.
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The reason we concentrated on finishing top 4 is because of the funds it bought to the club! We needed cash to improve our squad and if I remember we played in 2 finals in 3 years and actually won one of those!!!
Now that we don't have European football we should be concentrating on winning the domestic cups as well as fighting for top 4!
If I remember correctly then we also won the FA cup during his stint!
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The reason we concentrated on finishing top 4 is because of the funds it bought to the club! We needed cash to improve our squad and if I remember we played in 2 finals in 3 years and actually won one of those!!!
Now that we don't have European football we should be concentrating on winning the domestic cups as well as fighting for top 4!
If I remember correctly then we also won the FA cup during his stint! long time ago now and the clock is ticking , 4th great and all that but 6 years without a trophies is just a scandal and to have never been to wembley is much more of a scandal , ever player wants to play in cup finals from the sunday league to the highest of leagues and this season liverpool are in 2 cups one i well on the way the carling cup , but for some reason liverpool fans dont want to win cups no more maybe because its been so long without one , this mentality of not winning cups and just finishing 4th well it done arsenal loads of harm with no cups to talk of and it doing liverpool harm , steven gerrard is 100% correct lets win this carling cup lets get to wembley let stop this rot of no trophies for 6 years and counting ,.
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I want the FA cup as well. How about doing the double on United in the Carling and FA Cup final, how about that!!!! I understand the argument about resting players BUT the Carling Cup comp gives our new players another chance to play together and gel. As for trophies, come one come all.
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I think the question of whats more important always pops up because over the years we have always prioritised finishing fourth over winning one of the domestic Cups due mainly to the manager we had at the time, The Spanish one. I do think the really big and powerful Clubs like United, City and Chelsea might have a case for putting Champions League success ahead of domestic success but definately not Clubs clubs who dont taste silverware like Ourselves, Spurs, Everton, Villa, Stoke's and Newcastle's of this world and have not done for years, silveraware is far more important even though it's not a Premier League or Champions League where we dont have a hope in hell's chance of ever winning.
I think if we are not careful we could easily turn into 10 seasons without a trophy as it will be 6 at the end of the season, this can snowball into 15 like Everton and then you get into Man City before last season's F.A.Cup win which was well over 25 seasons, they all thought like we did that it would'nt be that long too remember. We need to put a trophy in the cabinet as soon as possible and us not playing at Wembley yet is a disgraceful record considering some of the Clubs which have already been, nobody remembers runners up and losers in football only trophy winners. yeah man united went 30 something years without winning the prem too did nt they, at least we have nt gone as far as the scum.
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Why does fourth place have to be mentioned every time the carling cup pops up?
Winning this cup only takes 4-5 games so why the hell not? Whether we make the top 4 or not, this competition is not going to distract us that much from focusing on the league. 100% agree snake. What's with people killing the buzz. Why can we only achieve 1 goal this season? I for one think we could win the carling cup, the FA cup and get 4th, it is possible, not just getting forth. We just need to put away our chances, we create enough chances. it all goes back to an earlier arguement where faz said winning the carling cup was more important than finishing 4th, thats why he keeps making up these pointless carling cup threads to get his point accross.
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