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the point is faz, you said flanagan should be no where near the team a couple of weeks ago and that it was a big mistake on kennys part, why is he all of a sudden good enough away to spurs.
been watching him at melwood have you? if not good enough then yes should never play again and if skrtel is the only option then liverpool have big problem , i believe kelly was avaliable but not even given a subs shirt .
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Kelly was injured how was he supposed to even be a sub in the game. Flannagan is good, however against the Spurs attack the result would have been the same.
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i dont think it mattered to much today,we were outplayed by an average team.this spurs side have been taken apart by man citeh and the scum yet they were to good for us.we were crap to start with and got worse.no matter who we sign no matter who's the manager we always seem to produce poor sides.we had no pace no passing ability and a poor workrate.
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Stoke match is over and lets forget about it..
we have a bigger problem this weekend and its tottenham..!!!
hope we get three points there..
expected line ups!?
1.reina
2.agger
3.carragher
4.enrique
5.johnson
6.downing
7.lucas
8.adam
9.bellamy
10.suarez
11.carroll.
three points there would be awsome...!! enrique for me
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todays performance was a disaster. we were outplayed by spurs from the moment the game started. yes the red cards made it much more difficult for us but to be honest im not sure we would have got anything from this game anyway because we played like sh*t for the first half hour as well.
kenny and his staff deserves criticism. skrtel was a disaster at rb against boro a couple of seasons ago and should never have been allowed to play there again. everyone knew that he would have a hard time against bale. i know glen and kelly where out but still i think there were other players for that position. i even believe kuyt could have done quite well there (although that's just a guess). what i don't understand is why we didn't make any subs at half time...
i actually think carroll did quiet good today. he controlled the ball in a better way and worked harder but unfortunately the rest of the team played well below their level.
two vital games coming up. me HAVE to get 6 points against wolves and everton.
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I think we needed to play Carragher at right back and move Skirtel back into his favoured centre half position, we also needed to play Kuyt ahead of Carragher to combat the threat of Bale, I think we might of been better playing one up front and using the extra man in midfield because that where Spurs are at there strongest. What I cant understand is Dalglish could'nt see these changes and anyone with half a footballing brain can see them as clear as day, this is thge part which bothers me most about Dalglish. I can remember Dalglish as manager first time round and anybody else who remembers the end of his last stint will be able to recall baffling decisions like this when he was losing the plot, weird formations, playing players out of position, dropping Peter Beardsley and playing an extra centre half e.t.c.
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the game on the whole was a complete catastrophe from start to finish...... as a team we were awful. however the ref was a joke 2 red cards in a game where there was hardly a tackle made. i thought suarez and carra were embarrassing, suarez was a disgrace tbh all he did was have a 90 minute hissy-fit, moan, moan, moan. carra was quiet all game, when we needed a leader, and didn't he play defoe and adebayor on side for the 3rd and 4th goals? poor captains performance, reina should be our vice-captain.
i know I'm gonna get slated for this. but; i think carroll deserves a lot of credit he didn't throw his toys out of the pram like suarez, and he put a shift in when he was asked to fill in out wide. he looked quite spritely and full of work, again unlike the hero worshipped suarez.
Kenny got it completely wrong today; starting 433 against a team who play 442, unnecessary, and we looked completely lost the midfielders were just standing around looking at each other, too scared to make a move an press the ball i'm guessing because they didn't know who was gonna be behind them covering, which is something that surely has to be worked out in training? playing 433 also had a knock on effect on the front 3 because, well they never had the ball. and suarez was out of position, carroll was isolated, just poor from kenny. but although there can be no excuses for such a dreadful performance, we did have to make a change at the back and take off our best defender, as i have said the ref was a joke, adam's 1st and skrtel's 2nd were never bookings. we need to pick ourselves up and give brighton a right good kicking, because we now have 2 very important games against wolves and everton.
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the game on the whole was a complete catastrophe from start to finish...... as a team we were awful. however the ref was a joke 2 red cards in a game where there was hardly a tackle made. i thought suarez and carra were embarrassing, suarez was a disgrace tbh all he did was have a 90 minute hissy-fit, moan, moan, moan. carra was quiet all game, when we needed a leader, and didn't he play defoe and adebayor on side for the 3rd and 4th goals? poor captains performance, reina should be our vice-captain.
i know I'm gonna get slated for this. but; i think carroll deserves a lot of credit he didn't throw his toys out of the pram like suarez, and he put a shift in when he was asked to fill in out wide. he looked quite spritely and full of work, again unlike the hero worshipped suarez.
Kenny got it completely wrong today; starting 433 against a team who play 442, unnecessary, and we looked completely lost the midfielders were just standing around looking at each other, too scared to make a move an press the ball i'm guessing because they didn't know who was gonna be behind them covering, which is something that surely has to be worked out in training? playing 433 also had a knock on effect on the front 3 because, well they never had the ball. and suarez was out of position, carroll was isolated, just poor from kenny. but although there can be no excuses for such a dreadful performance, we did have to make a change at the back and take off our best defender, as i have said the ref was a joke, adam's 1st and skrtel's 2nd were never bookings. we need to pick ourselves up and give brighton a right good kicking, because we now have 2 very important games against wolves and everton. totally agree with the carroll part
‘There are only two
sides in Liverpool – one is red
and one is blue and the blue side
are the reserves.’
-Bill Shankly.
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i know I'm gonna get slated for this. but; i think carroll deserves a lot of credit he didn't throw his toys out of the pram like suarez, and he put a shift in when he was asked to fill in out wide. he looked quite spritely and full of work, again unlike the hero worshipped suarez.
i actually tend to agree with you...
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House has it right. Carroll put himself about the park today, and Suarez was shocking. Starting Skrtel was a disaster waiting to happen, even had Bale arrived in a leg cast, and his backward passes while we were on the attack were absolutely unforgivable. Carra wasn't great, but it's hard to control things when everyone around you has lost their heads - we definitely panicked today, and no one stepped up. Reina could have been better at the end as well, but he seemed not to be concentrating.
I though Spearing gave it a bit of a go though. Not a good game to come on as a sub, but we got forward surprisingly often once he was there.
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