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Guys, for the Roy Hodgson situation we can put a full stop to the fact that Roy Hodgson was the wrong man for the club, and if Kenny was hired in the summer and allowed to buy his players, even with a limited fund I think we would have been better off. Kenny Dalglish would not of fared much better than Roy Hodgson if he had taken over last season with the same owners, Torres sulking, Mascherano on Strike, Gerrard dissilussioned, hardly any money and forced to bring in your Poulson's and Konchesky type signings for the money he had available and all the fans against him wanting him to fail so he would be replaced, there is no way on earth Dalglish who has a habbitt of quitting when the going gets tough being that much better than Hodgson in the same circumstances. Dalglish only took the job on in January because it was a win win job, if he failed fans would still blame Hodgson and he also knew he would be getting loads of money of the new owners to spend, Dalglish would never of had the bottle to take the job in at the start of the season thats why he done the sh*thouse thing and only said he wanted the job after it was already offered to Hodgson, why did'nt he throw his hat into the ring when the toxic Benitez left, simply because he knew it was'nt a good job at the time and knew he was on a hiding to nothing given the situation the Club was in at the time, in and out the courts and that with massive turmoil both on and off the pitch. just proves how nuch garbage you talk, dalglish went for the job and was turned down last summer because they wanted to give the job to hodgsonand told kenny they wanted him upstairs. the worst decision that has EVER been made by the club. he did nt sulk but got behind hodgsons appointment, so get your facts straight. the man is a legend, hes won leagues as manager with liverpool and if thats not enough he took blackburn and won the league with them. class manager. unlike roy hodgson You need to get your facts straight Dalglish never threw his name into the hat until after Hodgson was intervied for the post by then it was too late the board had already made up its mind to offer Roy the job. Dalglish has no credibility with some fans if you ask some fans of Celtic about his time as director of football there, Newcastle fans about what he done there and even some Blackburn fans about the way he left them in the lurch by taking the easy way out and moving upstairs to let Ray Harford take over becaue the job of keeping Blackburn on top after winning the league was to much pressure for him. People forget the way he quit the Club back then and I have even heard some fans blame Hillsborough but if you read Dalglish's book it was not the case, he said he realised he had made a mistake quitting 2 weeks after leaving and wanted to come back, he then goes on to say he was invited up to David Moores house fully expecting to be given the job and ready to accept when David Moores dropped a bomshell he said by just getting him up there just to ask him his opinion on offering Graeme Souness the job, Dalglish was fuming, this was less than 2 months after quitting, he then took up Blackburn's offer 8 months ater, no, Dalglish quit because he knew the rebuilding job Souness had was the biggest since Shanks took over and it was all down to Dalglish letting the team grow to old and slide, he started the Clubs demise and helped knock us off our perch not just Fergie.
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i cant be bothered argueing with you anymore reclaim. you dont listen to anyones point of view you just spout off the same old garbage. no one on here agrees with you and most lfc fans would nt agree with you.but you seem happy enough with your little vendetta against kenny so i ll let you at it cant be bothered goin in circles with ya.
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FAZ: ok fine no problem with that but why wasnt the same positivety given to the team and manager this time last year ? Few points. Hodgson's first 4/5 games didn't receive much criticism. Dalglish's first 4/5 games were last season. This is a new season, and Dalglish already impressed last season. But if you want to compare starts of the season, Dalglish is two points higher after 4 games, which equates to 19 points more over a season, which is significant. I'd say Dalglish has already received some criticism for signings, so Hodgson didn't have it harder. When criticism came to Hodgson, it was because people could tell we wouldn't be successful. You don't need a full season to see that a pub footballer isn't going to make it in the premiership. We could tell Hodgson couldn't do it, and he was actually given longer than he should have had. The chants about Bentiez and Dalglish were not nice. But then neither was some of the things Hodgson had to say. Finally, Dalglish has achieved some success as a manager at more than one club. Hodgson never has at the top level. fair enough but it this season his first full season which is a barometer he has had big money to spend and its been very mixed ok we all hope it improves , as for what hodgson said i dont recall him allegedly slagging the support after the arsenal home game so why the away end chanting for benitez and dalglish 2 games in , now i dont care how bad hodgsons reign ended up no one knew or could predict anything at that time , at that time the club was on the verge of administration players were going on strike IE mascherano , torres sulking and hasnt stop sulking to this day so i think he had a bit of a job on trying to balance it all out which ok he wasnt good enough at doing it and rightly got sacked , and as for dalglish and i have said this before judge his management on now not 20 odd years ago different dalglish different times in football .
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Guys, for the Roy Hodgson situation we can put a full stop to the fact that Roy Hodgson was the wrong man for the club, and if Kenny was hired in the summer and allowed to buy his players, even with a limited fund I think we would have been better off. i dont believe that to be correct the club was close to administration torres prove dalglish wasnt a factor and left , mascherano still would have distrupted the team on he morning we were playing man city by going on strike , now i am not here to back hodgson or any manager hodgson failed and he deserved the sack because the result meant he deserved the sack , but benitez had torres mascherano , gerrard johnson agger reina all playing and just about finished 7th only making it into the europa league through default due to portmouths problems , so is the beloved benitez couldnt turn it around and failed , hodgson failed how would have dalglish suddenly made it good with everything that was going on ?
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Guys, for the Roy Hodgson situation we can put a full stop to the fact that Roy Hodgson was the wrong man for the club, and if Kenny was hired in the summer and allowed to buy his players, even with a limited fund I think we would have been better off. i dont believe that to be correct the club was close to administration torres prove dalglish wasnt a factor and left , mascherano still would have distrupted the team on he morning we were playing man city by going on strike , now i am not here to back hodgson or any manager hodgson failed and he deserved the sack because the result meant he deserved the sack , but benitez had torres mascherano , gerrard johnson agger reina all playing and just about finished 7th only making it into the europa league through default due to portmouths problems , so is the beloved benitez couldnt turn it around and failed , hodgson failed how would have dalglish suddenly made it good with everything that was going on ? He would of turned it round in peoples eyes on here for the simple fact they show him blind loyalty, hes not really Kenny Dalglish but David Copperfield. The bottom line is Dalglish has had every single thing given to him to do the job, money, support, absolutely everything and we are only a fraction better off than we were under Hodgson, Dalglish has messed up wasting money and it's reflected in the results this season, he's making a pig's ear out of it and fans wont accept it.
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Jimmy do you not think its a bit early to be judging Dalglish we need to give him a full season at least. The second half of last season was a stabalising period. This this his first season really
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hodgson took over a very decent team at lfc.not the best but he proceeded to ruin it further still.no wonder macherano left after seeing who the new manager was.id of done the same.simply hodgson should not of been apointed.many said so at the time.the whole ground chanting for rafa and kenny was a sign everyone knew that and didnt want him.he was a loser and was on a loser from the secon he set foot in anfield.yes kenny woud have done alot better ..look how it changed around after his apointment.early days now ...we can only be realistic despite what we may or may not make of his buys and wait a little now and hope we are wrong in the belief he has gaffed with some big signings.a glance at tomorrows midfield will tell you all you need to know imo.
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hodgson took over a very decent team at lfc.not the best but he proceeded to ruin it further still.no wonder macherano left after seeing who the new manager was.id of done the same.simply hodgson should not of been apointed.many said so at the time.the whole ground chanting for rafa and kenny was a sign everyone knew that and didnt want him.he was a loser and was on a loser from the secon he set foot in anfield.yes kenny woud have done alot better ..look how it changed around after his apointment.early days now ...we can only be realistic despite what we may or may not make of his buys and wait a little now and hope we are wrong in the belief he has gaffed with some big signings.a glance at tomorrows midfield will tell you all you need to know imo. load of total nonsense that , mascherano didnt leave because roy hodgson was manager if thats the case torres because dalglish was the manager , to say he is a loser and he ruined a decent team do you mean a team that struggled to finish 7th that decent team ? get real mate honestly dalglish would not have been any better might have won one or two games more might , but you could had bill shankly in charge of that team with all that was happening club close to going under unhappy players from the previous regime mascherano/torres club close adminitration little money to spend and he would have had problems , players like jovanovic at the club oh yes dalglish would have just waved his wand and all that would have been stop total crap , when dalglish came in the club was on an even footing suarez was already signed even if hodgson was the manager suarez was coming , liverpool played better from january onward no doubting that so very good performance also some bad ones as well but to say dalglish would have sorted it all out this time last year is nonsense .
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Hodgson is all I see in every thread....... 
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Hodgson is all I see in every thread....... look mate it not hodgson persay it just being fair and upfront , so it ok to slag a manager virtually before a ball is kicked , but because dalglish is what he is he like a certain other manager gets carte blanche to do what ever they like good , bad or indifferent without any sort of recall or questioning ? i have just seen on another thread a ceratin poster saying benitez would be a good appointment if it goes pearshaped "REALLY" ?
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