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Thekoprophet and snakeye have hit the nail on the head,there's also a problem that some fans are very anxious about the NEED! to win,now we all want to win but most fans that live in the real world realise its not all about the win but the supporting of the club/team whoever is in it,giving those involved realistic time scales to adapt,this approach enables the fans to judge with a clear mind,and that's why when we are given people like Roy to manage us we quickly realise that the man is actually lacking and its not just knee jerk reaction.

There’s much truth in the reasons given by kop prophet we live in a very materialistic society now. But the premise of the thread is ridiculous people will always complain or give alternative viewpoints its part of human nature. I recall coming out of Anfield in the mid eighties when we won titles for fun and people would be moaning if we had drawn or won only 1.0. It’s part of football and part of life. If you want to fashion a forum where all of is spoken is how wonderful it all is it would be as boring as hell and no one would log on. Another point is that constructive criticism is good and how you progress not by putting your head in the sand. You can bet it goes on at Anfield today just as it did under shanks and paisley.

Your right there Stanley too! it just seems worse now i think because of the power of the forums etc,the complaining is more in your face nowadays thats all.

I also think its fashion on the Internet. I don't think or at least hope that managers/players get as much abuse off the internet. The internet empowers people to a point where they abuse it and start talking and behave differently.

spot on.

damn i don't anyone wanna explain to me?

I admit I'm one of those fans who gets depressed after lfc loss or draw a game that I personally think we needed to get a better result in or know that we played shockingly bad. Not sure if that falls in same category as most fans prob feel the same way.

I don't inderstand who or what you're referring to

If anythimng I find people on this forum too overconfident about liverpool's chances this season

We've made a poor(ish) start to the season - already playing catch up with Chelsea and the Manchester clubs, we're not in Europe for the first time in, what is it, 11 years, and our defeat to Stoke (where we completely outplayed them) outlined that we still dominate games and yet leave with nothing which has been our achilles heal even under defensive managers like Houllier and Rafa

Of course get behind the team and support the players (who doesn't) but there's no hiding the fact that we've had a poor start to the season and i find it strange that fellow liverpool fans would suggest otherwise

I wouldn't go as far as to say its a poor start because realistically we've won away at Arsenal, and only lost and drew once in a league which is the most competitive in the world, in addition to the fact we have in previous seasons not beaten sunderland at home (last 2 seasons) and never beaten stoke away in the premier league era.

Personally I'd say its a good start to the season but if we don't lose away to Spurs would say a defo good start, playing 2 of main contenders for 4th and not losing to either away from home puts us in good sted for the home games when they'll have Europe to think of.

it took rafa 3/4 years before he got us challenging, kennys had 6 months and people are on his and the players backs. the club was in its worst state for decades ffs yet people expect us to challenge for the title and the click of a finger. just remember it was kenny who has raised the standard turned it around so why turn your back on him and the players 4/5 games into the season. at least give them time to gel. we've had a decent start to this campaign and we are knocking the ball better than any liverpool side i've ever seen. we played arguably some of our best football against '11 men behind the ball' stoke but just couldn't get the ball in the net. the britania stadium is a tough place to go and it doesn't help when important decisions are going against us.