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Re: Fans can u find the plot? irish kopite #155526 13/09/11 07:08 PM
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Pictonclock Under 18 Player P Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 679	as soon as you resort to personal abuse youve lost it right there jimmy.life in a goldfish bowl must be pretty boring.

Re: Fans can u find the plot? cp1972 #155527 13/09/11 07:14 PM
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Pictonclock Under 18 Player P Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 679	I hope you are correct.cant keep blowing funds on rubbish though otherwise it will be 30 years not 3.lucky to have such sizable funds available but the pit is not endless like city or chelsea so it was crucial to buy well.i dont believe kenny has with 4 players.oportunity missed imo. Originally Posted By: cp1972 Originally Posted By: jimmycase8 No I personaly dont think it will ever happen, to much has happened over the last 20 odd years, I think we can have some domestic Cup success and maybe a Europa League win or two I even think we could qualify for the knock out stages of the Champions league a few times in the next 20 odd years but seriously not winning the Premiership or champions League. I think the damage has already been done in the last 20 odd years with poor Chairman, weak Board rooms, incompetent managers, players not fit to wear the red shirt and a fan base which has changed not for the better, these are all major contributions to the state we find ourselves in. I dont think we will fall as heavily as other famous Clubs like Everton, Leeds, Forest or Sheff Wed who are all so called big Clubs in there own right similar to ours but the face of football has now changed forever with the money involved, United have the best team and biggest fan base in the world and Chelsea are catching them up in the far east they are the fastest growing fan base in the football world and in the next 10 years City will be joining them, unfortunately for us you need to feed these fan bases with success and I mean major success and we unfortunately are going backwards in that department as six seasons proves, we cant rely on past reputations and glory which is what we are doing at present. Liverpool have the 4th biggest fan base in the world. Therefore we are not as far away as you indicate, yes all the points you made have some validity but the fact is each team has a squad of 25players and can only field 11 at once, in europe alone there are hundreds of top players not all play for Manu or City. We are less than a year into a new era and have come along way already. One more year will see similar improvements as long as the club continues to make the right decisions. 3yrs from now LFC will be competing right at the top, mark my words.

Re: Fans can u find the plot? Pictonclock #155529 13/09/11 07:46 PM
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Jim Tonez Under 18 Player J Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 847 Sussex	'3yrs from now LFC will be competing right at the top, mark my words.' And how many times has that been said... It will take at least a decade to get to the same level as the Manchester clubs are now - and that's just now, let alone how powerful they will be 10 yrs from now And that's not even bringing Chelsea into the equation - and all their resources despite having one of the stupidest owners in club football We've got a mountain to climb to compete for the very top - not the molehgill many on here are reckoning What's so frustrating was that we wete almost there 2-3 yrs ago -until the central playter in Rafa's team - Alonso departed - and the team fell apart

Re: Fans can u find the plot? Jim Tonez #155537 13/09/11 08:48 PM
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cp1972 Under 23 Player C Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,365	Originally Posted By: Jim Tonez '3yrs from now LFC will be competing right at the top, mark my words.' And how many times has that been said... It will take at least a decade to get to the same level as the Manchester clubs are now - and that's just now, let alone how powerful they will be 10 yrs from now And that's not even bringing Chelsea into the equation - and all their resources despite having one of the stupidest owners in club football We've got a mountain to climb to compete for the very top - not the molehgill many on here are reckoning What's so frustrating was that we wete almost there 2-3 yrs ago -until the central playter in Rafa's team - Alonso departed - and the team fell apart I do not understand your logic, lets go through things; Liverpool vs Chelsea and Man City Liverpool sell more shirts Liverpool have a bigger fan base locally and globally Liverpool have bigger sponsorship deals Liverpool is a bigger brand globally(TV revenue) Liverpool matchday revenue is still bigger than City The introduction of fairplay will clip the wings of both these clubs, neither operate anywhere near what is required in the financial fair play rules - fact!. If and it is a big IF Liverpool match their champs league revenue through other sponsership and actually qualifying ourselves then we are in a position to compete at least equally with either club. Chelsea have been winning and spending for nearly 9yrs and are still way behind Liverpool. Your comments insinuate that we will stand still or worse go backwards when all evidence suggests the contrary. In regards to Manu, they also have financial burdens and whilst succesfully managing them have to be careful, very much in our sights albeit a year away so far.

Re: Fans can u find the plot? cp1972 #155538 13/09/11 08:59 PM
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Jim Tonez Under 18 Player J Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 847 Sussex	Originally Posted By: cp1972 I do not understand your logic, lets go through things; Liverpool vs Chelsea and Man City Liverpool sell more shirts Liverpool have a bigger fan base locally and globally Liverpool have bigger sponsorship deals Liverpool is a bigger brand globally(TV revenue) Liverpool matchday revenue is still bigger than City The introduction of fairplay will clip the wings of both these clubs, neither operate anywhere near what is required in the financial fair play rules - fact!. I don't understand yours In terms of squads Man City's is probably second only to Real Madrid's (it's even better player foir player than Barcelona's) - and the reason is because they have a massively rich owner John Henry might be superrich too but his millions can't compete with the Shake's billions and you should know that by sposoring theor stadium City have found a sneaky way of by-passing the fair play rules meaning they'll be able to spend at the level they have been spending these past 2-3 years every summer [/quote] Originally Posted By: cp1972 Your comments insinuate that we will stand still or worse go backwards when all evidence suggests the contrary. What evidence is this? The fact that we were unable to get anything away to Stoke; the fact that we've swapped the overrated Henderson for the underated Mieireles and paid money for the privilege After a mere 4 games we're a massive 5 pts (that's a win and 2 draws) behind and already playing catch up to the Manchester clubs And I don't seeing us getting any pts against Tottenham, whereas the Manchester clubs currently look as if they can beat whoever they come up against - and heavily too Have you not seen the league table?

Re: Fans can u find the plot? Jim Tonez #155549 13/09/11 10:36 PM
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irish kopite Under 23 Player I Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 1,306	Originally Posted By: Jim Tonez Originally Posted By: cp1972 I do not understand your logic, lets go through things; Liverpool vs Chelsea and Man City Liverpool sell more shirts Liverpool have a bigger fan base locally and globally Liverpool have bigger sponsorship deals Liverpool is a bigger brand globally(TV revenue) Liverpool matchday revenue is still bigger than City The introduction of fairplay will clip the wings of both these clubs, neither operate anywhere near what is required in the financial fair play rules - fact!. I don't understand yours In terms of squads Man City's is probably second only to Real Madrid's (it's even better player foir player than Barcelona's) - and the reason is because they have a massively rich owner John Henry might be superrich too but his millions can't compete with the Shake's billions and you should know that by sposoring theor stadium City have found a sneaky way of by-passing the fair play rules meaning they'll be able to spend at the level they have been spending these past 2-3 years every summer Originally Posted By: cp1972 Your comments insinuate that we will stand still or worse go backwards when all evidence suggests the contrary. What evidence is this? The fact that we were unable to get anything away to Stoke; the fact that we've swapped the overrated Henderson for the underated Mieireles and paid money for the privilege After a mere 4 games we're a massive 5 pts (that's a win and 2 draws) behind and already playing catch up to the Manchester clubs And I don't seeing us getting any pts against Tottenham, whereas the Manchester clubs currently look as if they can beat whoever they come up against - and heavily too Have you not seen the league table? [/quote] the aim this year is 4th not winning the league so why are you worrying about the 2 manchester clubs. we need to worry about what where doing, our rivals for 4th will be arsenal ans spurs both are behind us in the table and imo weve played much better football than both of those this season, i also think we will get 3 points at spurs this week and if we dont it aint the end of the world its a long season. lets concentrate on getting back into europe and take it from there thats all anyone can ask cause the rest of the stuff yer all coming out with is bull, cause no one on here can read the future, except me

Re: Fans can u find the plot? irish kopite #155560 13/09/11 11:32 PM
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Stanley Park Liverpool Legend Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 27,628 Not the EU	Somebody posted we are the fourth biggest fanbase. Who is above us yes Man U but who else ? is it the two big spanish clubs? IF YOU WANT TO BE HEARD SPEAK SOFTLY - BOB PAISLEY

Re: Fans can u find the plot? Stanley Park #155563 13/09/11 11:39 PM
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fazakerley red 1 1st Team Regular F Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 17,444 FAZAKERLEY,LIVERPOOL	Originally Posted By: Stanley Park Somebody posted we are the fourth biggest fanbase. Who is above us yes Man U but who else ? is it the two big spanish clubs? liverpool fan base is based on 2 things history and 2005 CL final , not on being a successful league winning club which liverepool havent done similar to manchester united in the 70's 80's and 90's before they won the league , because of there past and the sad event of the munich air disaster .

Re: Fans can u find the plot? Stanley Park #155594 14/09/11 01:22 AM
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jimmycase8 Under 16 Player J Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 208	Originally Posted By: Stanley Park Somebody posted we are the fourth biggest fanbase. Who is above us yes Man U but who else ? is it the two big spanish clubs? Stanley I dont think fanbase alone means how big you are as a football Club, Celtic could probably rival us for fans all over the world and would you say Leeds United, Sheffield Wednesday and Newcastle are bigger then Chelsea because historicaly they have bigger fanbases until the Abramovic era. The way football works and especialy because we have the most fickle fans in the world alongside United, new supporters attatch themselves to fame or success, this is why Chelsea are the fastest growing fanbase in the world right now because of there success in the last 6 or so years, Man City will probably over take them in the next 10 because they will win leagues and Champions leagues. I am afraid Liverpool's fan base will diminish simply because we dont feed it with success and have'nt done for nearly 25 years, you cant live off past glories forever and we will see that.

Re: Fans can u find the plot? jimmycase8 #155662 14/09/11 03:12 AM
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Legend Under 23 Player Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 1,264	Originally Posted By: jimmycase8 Originally Posted By: Stanley Park Somebody posted we are the fourth biggest fanbase. Who is above us yes Man U but who else ? is it the two big spanish clubs? Stanley I dont think fanbase alone means how big you are as a football Club, Celtic could probably rival us for fans all over the world and would you say Leeds United, Sheffield Wednesday and Newcastle are bigger then Chelsea because historicaly they have bigger fanbases until the Abramovic era. The way football works and especialy because we have the most fickle fans in the world alongside United, new supporters attatch themselves to fame or success, this is why Chelsea are the fastest growing fanbase in the world right now because of there success in the last 6 or so years, Man City will probably over take them in the next 10 because they will win leagues and Champions leagues. I am afraid Liverpool's fan base will diminish simply because we dont feed it with success and have'nt done for nearly 25 years, you cant live off past glories forever and we will see that. I know some tw*t started a thread claiming Kenny had "lost the plot" because we lost at Stoke

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