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Can Liverpool get back to what they once were the premier team in British football bar no one. Winning titles almost every year and dominating Europe? I think it’s possible but with provisos. In my opinion three things need to be in place not one or two, ALL THREE or its a no go.
1. We need a top stadium capable of housing at least 20,000 more seats with corporate facilities and a profile to Market the club on a global scale. 2. We need to substantially increase the turnover almost double it. Given the existing revenue sources at saturation point then that means new revenue sources, see point 1. 3. Having a good manager and carefully selecting the right players that firsts puts us in the champions league then pushes for a title challenge. See points 1 and 2. The days of slowly getting better and growing organically are over never we will see another Derby, Notts Forest or Ipswich getting to the top purely on the team alone. These days you need money and prodigious sums of it, to even be at the starting blocks for the premiership title. You either need very good infrastructure and a worldwide fan base (as Man Utd) or a petro sugar daddy (city / Chelsea). Without either one you are not in the game. Now it’s perfectly possible Liverpool can follow Man Utd’s path very possible. But the problem is our revenuers and infrastructure is 20 to 30 years behind Man Utd through inept chairman over the years.
What do you think is the plot is and can we find it?????????????
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Can Liverpool get back to what they once were the premier team in British football bar no one. Winning titles almost every year and dominating Europe? I think it’s possible but with provisos. In my opinion three things need to be in place not one or two, ALL THREE or its a no go.
1. We need a top stadium capable of housing at least 20,000 more seats with corporate facilities and a profile to Market the club on a global scale. 2. We need to substantially increase the turnover almost double it. Given the existing revenue sources at saturation point then that means new revenue sources, see point 1. 3. Having a good manager and carefully selecting the right players that firsts puts us in the champions league then pushes for a title challenge. See points 1 and 2. The days of slowly getting better and growing organically are over never we will see another Derby, Notts Forest or Ipswich getting to the top purely on the team alone. These days you need money and prodigious sums of it, to even be at the starting blocks for the premiership title. You either need very good infrastructure and a worldwide fan base (as Man Utd) or a petro sugar daddy (city / Chelsea). Without either one you are not in the game. Now it’s perfectly possible Liverpool can follow Man Utd’s path very possible. But the problem is our revenuers and infrastructure is 20 to 30 years behind Man Utd through inept chairman over the years.
What do you think is the plot is and can we find it?????????????
20 odd years since a league title and counting one european cup in 25 years which was a great achivement , but too much grass has been allowed to grow under the clubs feet , due to a series of poor boards not just H&G but john smith , peter robinson who thought the success would never end and had no vision for the clubs future , noel white and the disaterous david moores , then a succession of mediocre manager who some did bring some success but not the one that counted the league and its not going to happen in the forseeable future , yes dalglish might and i hope liverpool get and win a cup final but no chance of the league , so in an answer no .
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Can Liverpool get back to what they once were the premier team in British football bar no one. Winning titles almost every year and dominating Europe? I think it’s possible but with provisos. In my opinion three things need to be in place not one or two, ALL THREE or its a no go.
1. We need a top stadium capable of housing at least 20,000 more seats with corporate facilities and a profile to Market the club on a global scale. 2. We need to substantially increase the turnover almost double it. Given the existing revenue sources at saturation point then that means new revenue sources, see point 1. 3. Having a good manager and carefully selecting the right players that firsts puts us in the champions league then pushes for a title challenge. See points 1 and 2. The days of slowly getting better and growing organically are over never we will see another Derby, Notts Forest or Ipswich getting to the top purely on the team alone. These days you need money and prodigious sums of it, to even be at the starting blocks for the premiership title. You either need very good infrastructure and a worldwide fan base (as Man Utd) or a petro sugar daddy (city / Chelsea). Without either one you are not in the game. Now it’s perfectly possible Liverpool can follow Man Utd’s path very possible. But the problem is our revenuers and infrastructure is 20 to 30 years behind Man Utd through inept chairman over the years.
What do you think is the plot is and can we find it?????????????
20 odd years since a league title and counting one european cup in 25 years which was a great achivement , but too much grass has been allowed to grow under the clubs feet , due to a series of poor boards not just H&G but john smith , peter robinson who thought the success would never end and had no vision for the clubs future , noel white and the disaterous david moores , then a succession of mediocre manager who some did bring some success but not the one that counted the league and its not going to happen in the forseeable future , yes dalglish might and i hope liverpool get and win a cup final but no chance of the league , so in an answer no . theres a surprise.
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so how is it in your dream world then ?
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i believe if we make the champs league this year wich im confident we will, we can attract a few more top quality players that are needed next year to go on to the next level and challenge, hardly a dream world. but you keep livin in your pessimistic b*****d world and we ll see what happens in the future.
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No I personaly dont think it will ever happen, to much has happened over the last 20 odd years, I think we can have some domestic Cup success and maybe a Europa League win or two I even think we could qualify for the knock out stages of the Champions league a few times in the next 20 odd years but seriously not winning the Premiership or champions League. I think the damage has already been done in the last 20 odd years with poor Chairman, weak Board rooms, incompetent managers, players not fit to wear the red shirt and a fan base which has changed not for the better, these are all major contributions to the state we find ourselves in. I dont think we will fall as heavily as other famous Clubs like Everton, Leeds, Forest or Sheff Wed who are all so called big Clubs in there own right similar to ours but the face of football has now changed forever with the money involved, United have the best team and biggest fan base in the world and Chelsea are catching them up in the far east they are the fastest growing fan base in the football world and in the next 10 years City will be joining them, unfortunately for us you need to feed these fan bases with success and I mean major success and we unfortunately are going backwards in that department as six seasons proves, we cant rely on past reputations and glory which is what we are doing at present.
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No I personaly dont think it will ever happen, to much has happened over the last 20 odd years, I think we can have some domestic Cup success and maybe a Europa League win or two I even think we could qualify for the knock out stages of the Champions league a few times in the next 20 odd years but seriously not winning the Premiership or champions League. I think the damage has already been done in the last 20 odd years with poor Chairman, weak Board rooms, incompetent managers, players not fit to wear the red shirt and a fan base which has changed not for the better, these are all major contributions to the state we find ourselves in. I dont think we will fall as heavily as other famous Clubs like Everton, Leeds, Forest or Sheff Wed who are all so called big Clubs in there own right similar to ours but the face of football has now changed forever with the money involved, United have the best team and biggest fan base in the world and Chelsea are catching them up in the far east they are the fastest growing fan base in the football world and in the next 10 years City will be joining them, unfortunately for us you need to feed these fan bases with success and I mean major success and we unfortunately are going backwards in that department as six seasons proves, we cant rely on past reputations and glory which is what we are doing at present. youve just written the face of football for the next 20 years. what a marvelous man you are. i could nt even tell you what will happen next week never mind next year, but jimmy here has it sussed for the next 20. yer some man for 1 man haha
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No too much doom amnd gloom here. Yes we have problems and off the field we are a godawful mess. BUT with the right investment (John where are you?) the club could compete with city and utd no problem. As I put on the other post Peel holdings are investing £50b making Liverpool the second deepwater port in the UK. You won't know Liverpool in 30 years time. Plus we are in a massive connurbation only surpassed by London. Its not just the 0151 people.
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i believe if we make the champs league this year wich im confident we will, we can attract a few more top quality players that are needed next year to go on to the next level and challenge, hardly a dream world. but you keep livin in your pessimistic b*****d world and we ll see what happens in the future. is that it 4th is that what it all about now ?
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yes 4th is what its about fazakerley.for now anyway.just get us back to were rafa had us for alot of the time.personaly i think 8th is about were lfc will end up.useless signings to blame..4 of them. in the other thed fazakerley you made some valid points about chairmen.lfc were slow to go worldwide when the y won in 77 the euro cup.didnt capatalise on it at all. however kenny has just been given 150m kitty to compete for quality players and hes failed miserably with 4 of them at a cost of 85m.ridiculous some are saying we will get quality in january..ermm hellloooo wtf didnt he do it in the last 2 windows.besides that there wont be mega money now in january.henry must be looking at kennys dealings thinking wtf i wont trust him with more money.
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