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No I still think we are short of wide players and a quality defensive midfield player. Having said that, I am very happy with the squad we have now compared to last season and I agree with the above comment about people being fickle. The team will need time to gel but I firmly believe that we will be in the top 4 come the end of the season

I see the scum are 3-0 up already

whats wrong with my pc it says 0 for goals scored by liverpool today- wha happened?

Games like this we needed Aqualani, our midfield is good but we lack people who can break down defenses.

Still everyone loses, as long as we finish in the top four i don't care.

we didnt score any and they scored a lame penalty...(very very soft) and hendo and suarez missed clear scoring opportunities..

Same old Liverpool for me, no difference from any other season, I suppose you always get the people who say if only this or if only that but at the end of the day it's a defeat. I cant believe nobody has started having a go at Dalglish yet, this man has spent well over 100 million pounds on players and it's arguable wether we are better or not from last season. The so called King has told us a pack of lies this week saying Andy Carroll has never been fitter or focussed, if so why did'nt he play him today, you will never get a team more taylor made for Carroll to play against than Stoke today, today should of been the game to let Carroll shove Cappello's taunts down his throat but no for some unknown reason the so called King decided to leave him out. I dont know about anybody else but the decisions Dalglish has been making like playing Skirtel full back, pereservering with Henderson and spending 35 million on Carroll are exactly the same sort of things he was doing when he lost the plot at the end of his previous reign.

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I'm going to keep it simple, cos there isn't much to say. We've not beaten Stoke away in 4 attempts, and oddly enough they're improving season by season. We struggle there because traditionally Liverpool is not a side that is good in the air. Which explains why Carroll was on the bench - prior to the game I stressed we would need Carroll and Suarez to start for precisely the reason that we couldn't allow them to defend only against pace or air.

Problem 1: Stoke have a narrow pitch, and have defenders good in the air. This means they will be tough to break down unless your passing game is on fire - and ours was not. Downing spent most of the second half playing in the middle of the park as well, and the first half was dominated by long balls from Liverpool for reasons unknown.

Problem 2: Lots of marginal decisions went against us - on a different day we would have won 1-0.

My feeling? We had an off-day in terms of passing, forcing us to hoof it too much. This meant we played too much to their strengths, which was tactically flawed. In addition, a bad day at the office for some players meant we couldn't break them down once they parked the bus.

Is it a crisis? No. It's week 4 with a largely new squad, we've had major decisions go against us in each game thus far, and we're playing like we want to win but aren't quite there yet in terms of consistency, communication, and squad gelling. Those 3 aspects only need time and determination, and a somewhat more impartial official. I see this as a point dropped, which is bad certainly, but not the crisis some "supporters" are inventing. Like them, I also worry about our back 4 and our inability to be clinical in front of goal, but maybe you're all shouting a bit too soon. After all, Dalglish has still won more than half the games he's managed thus far this season, and you have to go all the way back to his previous stint in charge to find a manager with a better average. Football is a game where you win some games you shouldn't and lose some games you shouldn't. This was one of the latter. Take it on the chin and move on, grow up and support your club rather than trying your hardest to undermine the club and everyone associated with it.

+1, on the money with ur post.

and i think KD learned a lesson today, play ur best starting 11, do not worry abt the opposition and play to ur strengths.

looking at todays game, i think KD wud of luved to of had raul or Aqua on the bench or in the team.

given the choice, i wud of kept Aqua, raul and loaned out spearing, shelvey.

i agree today he should have said to carroll go out there and stuff the abuse down the press and capellos throats , but after backing him he leaves him out , liverpool are going to finish 4th 5th or 6th no higher than that its the same old liverpool will be decent at home and pretty ordinary away , i have said it before if liverpool finish 4th 5th or 6th and win a cup then its has been a fan tastic season , and winning a cup would be a great step forward to future events , and its got to be at least the league cup , all this hype that has surrounded liverpool is to much all based on a home win against bolton wanderers and an away win against a dire dire arsenal , i have said it before and i say it again this seasaon is a season of massive transition it will need loads of hard work loads of luck to even get 5th never mind 4th or then crazy lot of you who actually tought liverpool could win the league .