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Its alrite saying we want our own stadium am worried about the costs. surely going into debt for 400 million is not in our best interests, for a start it would come at the expense of team rebuilding and secondly it will be us fans who have to fork out extra on ticket prices to pay for it. I just think our ship has sailed regarding new stadiums it should of been done years ago and now is not the climate anymore to be building new stadiums. If we build a new stadium and we dont have success, the crowds wont come, we wont fill it and the Club will be finished for good I really dont have confidence in our fanbase to support us through thick and thin as most of our fans are gloryhunters, we need to be really careful with this new stadium decision, get it wrong and I seriously think we will be finished.

wouldnt say moyes is fantastic.at any other club hed of been sacked years ago.10years with no trophy.odd stint in europe and they got hammered.only reason moyes is still there is because everton made him a millionaire.hes got it comfy.kenwright wont sack him coz he knows no mug would want the job.be delighted to see them go like shef wed.if no new ground stay at anfield.lfc need only 12k more sears so somewhere that can be had.60k is all lfc need.75 would not regulary be filled.

Finance £400 / £500m quite easy either 40 year bond or debenture issue or shares placing or right issues. Together with naming rights over a 40 year period it would be peanuts and repaid a hundred fold. The ticket prices at the game could actually go down because of the non gate revenue you would generate. To sell the product global PPV you need a top stadum. As I understand it Aresnal have already paid for theirs in a relatively short period of time. And with interest rates at a record low there has never been a better time to raise debentures although the market is tough. And our chairman is a top Boston financier.

How are we going to fill the thing if we dont have success in the next 2 or 3 seasons, we cant live off just appearing in the Champions league, our fans want trophies and I am talking about the League and Champions League if we dont you will soon see the numbers dropping, I would personaly rather stay in a two thirds full 45k seater stadium than a less than half full 60k one myself.

lfc will always fill most league games even if its just local support.

There is no local support now, the Club has lost a whole generation of young local fans coming through now, so it's to late to call on local support. People who live in the City will tell you that there are no youngsters playing footie in the street then going to watch there heroes at the end of the week anymore, for one they could never get a ticket and two they would'nt be able to afford it. I am afraid the people of Liverpool have turned it's back on the football Club now, what I mean is they dont mind watching them on the telly, going the pub to watch it e.t.c. but they wont go as far as to pay money to actualy go the match now, I have loads of friends who claim to support the Club yet when I have been on holiday and offered them my ticket none have wanted to buy the thing off me which says it all, locals dont want to know now am afraid because they have either been priced out or have got used to never being able to buy tickets in the past.

I think you are right there Jimmy. Last season I had a spare ticket for the Chelsea game and I could not give it away to so called local fans. I don't mean selling it I mean giving it away FREE. Its so expensive now people have got out of the habit of going rather watch it on sky and thats now in their DNA.

You have hit the nail on the head there Stanley in that it's all about Habbit's, for years and years local fans have never been able to buy tickets either because it's too expensive or because the Club prioritised outsiders because they spent more money. We have now reached a stage where we have lost a whole generation of young local support who have been brought up never being alowed to go to the match either on there own or with there dad's, I know because if I offered my nephews 40 quid there first thing they would do would buy a playstation game or ask me to take them to the WWF in Manchester, definately not to Anfield to watch a match which I think is so sad, it's not there fault it's just the way things are in that they have never been brought up with going to the match in there blood. When I drive to Anfield which is about 2 mile away every single pub on the way I will see fathers taking there little kids dressed in full Liverpool kits walking to there local pubs to watch the matches on the telly, this is the way local's now support the Club, even if they had the money they would rather do that and have a few pints with there mates and kids than pay 50 quid to watch it in the Stadium and this is the reason why I say football in the City is finished, they dont mind watching on the telly but thats about it.

100% correct sadly

I remember back in the 80's we had something called a ticket tout they sold you a ticket at twice face value and made a lot of money. I bet they don't make a penny these days.