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been saying that top4.kenny bought him so its he who is to blame.i remember crouch going 30 games without a goal and he played every game and wasnt cheap but he was trying hard and it showed.Does carrol know hes allowed in the penalty area.hes just a championship player who had 18 games in premier league.what kenny bought was not potential...hes 22..at his age rush owen fowler were not potential.he was bought because somehow kenny thought that he was a prolific scorer.he was a long term injury at the time yet he still payed out 35m on an injured player.unheard of.

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Well I started this thread in good faith hopeing someone would tell me something that I cannot see. No one has.

Other than his pile driver left foot is that it ?

Tell me its not so because if it is its the worst piece of transfer business Liverpool FC have ever done.


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so your not even going to give him a chance because he cost us 35 mil?

if you sign a player at 22 years of age you know are paying for potential plain and simple. yes, tevez and aguero came at the same fee but who could we attract in january when we were still mid/bottom half of the table?

we know we over payed for him, we know he has more to his game than he's shown so far. but give the lad a chance to find some form. he has huge weight on his shoulders to succeed for a young player. i'd rather get behind him than slag him off.

don't buy into all this lifestyle bull. you are just on the media bandwagon.



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Interesting article on Caroll - maybe some of you have already seen this but it's worth a look:

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool...00252-29390176/

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Originally Posted By: want3d
so your not even going to give him a chance because he cost us 35 mil?

if you sign a player at 22 years of age you know are paying for potential plain and simple. yes, tevez and aguero came at the same fee but who could we attract in january when we were still mid/bottom half of the table?

we know we over payed for him, we know he has more to his game than he's shown so far. but give the lad a chance to find some form. he has huge weight on his shoulders to succeed for a young player. i'd rather get behind him than slag him off.

don't buy into all this lifestyle bull. you are just on the media bandwagon.


Yes I am going to give him a chance I desperatetly want him to do well starting today at Stoke. My question if you read it, was what are his qualities? Perhaps you would care to enumerate?


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Originally Posted By: frenchpookie
Interesting article on Caroll - maybe some of you have already seen this but it's worth a look:

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool...00252-29390176/


Thank you cookie I read the article and the comments below. It seems one qual;ity is putting himself about worrying the other defenders such that it free's up others. Ok I can buy that !


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Seems like he's putting in the work and I remember a comment from another poster about Carrols quality is bullying opposition defenders which then give Suarez the space to be creative and score goals. Those bagging him get od his case and give him te and he will start banging them in for us!

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Originally Posted By: want3d
so your not even going to give him a chance because he cost us 35 mil?

if you sign a player at 22 years of age you know are paying for potential plain and simple. yes, tevez and aguero came at the same fee but who could we attract in january when we were still mid/bottom half of the table?

we know we over payed for him, we know he has more to his game than he's shown so far. but give the lad a chance to find some form. he has huge weight on his shoulders to succeed for a young player. i'd rather get behind him than slag him off.

don't buy into all this lifestyle bull. you are just on the media bandwagon.

YOU ARE KIDDING ARENT YOU HAHA!22 ffs potential..hes a man now.in 8 years hes past it as a striker.17 to 19 is potential thereafter its usualy all you will ever get.jeez meessi at 23 is some potential isnt he.not saying anything about his lifestyle.its only his quality i see.that was never good enough.i thought 20m for robbie keane was bad at the time but 35m on carrol is just silly sily silly.

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I am sorry I hear what you are saying but I am starting to lose faith with Carroll. And I think you are too I hear the encouragment but it feels half hearted. I think we all know what the truth is.


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Originally Posted By: frenchpookie
Interesting article on Caroll - maybe some of you have already seen this but it's worth a look:

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool...00252-29390176/


Thank you cookie I read the article and the comments below. It seems one qual;ity is putting himself about worrying the other defenders such that it free's up others. Ok I can buy that !



excellent forum on the echo too.anyone else on here use it as well.

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