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#154810 09/09/11 11:35 PM
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I am told by my mates Carroll will come good and I can see there are some on this site that have that view also. The title of the thread is not meant to imply Andy has no qualities. However having seen him live and on TV quite a few times now to be honest I am very perplexed as to what we have bought. Let’s be even handed here I can see he has one hell of a shot better than Patrick Berger and that’s saying a lot. BUT beyond that I am struggling for his size he is not particularly good in the air or strong shrugging off the opposition etc. Plus his first touch and build up play seems to be very poor. His pace is none existent. I don’t mean to be negative here I really don’t, but that’s the way it looks. Now let’s give him time yes but I would appreciate those who can read the game better than me explaining things to me. I have put latent on the thread because I am assuming he will come good and so I can look forward to what we will get. Also this is not mean't to be a Carroll bashing thread more to understand.

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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
I am told by my mates Carroll will come good and I can see there are some on this site that have that view also. The title of the thread is not meant to imply Andy has no qualities. However having seen him live and on TV quite a few times now to be honest I am very perplexed as to what we have bought. Let’s be even handed here I can see he has one hell of a shot better than Patrick Berger and that’s saying a lot. BUT beyond that I am struggling for his size he is not particularly good in the air or strong shrugging off the opposition etc. Plus his first touch and build up play seems to be very poor. His pace is none existent. I don’t mean to be negative here I really don’t, but that’s the way it looks. Now let’s give him time yes but I would appreciate those who can read the game better than me explaining things to me. I have put latent on the thread because I am assuming he will come good and so I can look forward to what we will get. Also this is not mean't to be a Carroll bashing thread more to understand.

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I have been saying lay off Andy Caroll for a while now, however if I were to speak the truth, other than that hammer of a left foot I have not seen anything real special from Caroll. Only time will tell.

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I think most people are willing to give Andy atleast the time to fail,I would think most people were singing his praises when he stuck 2 past joe hart last season.


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It needs more than sticking two past Joe Hart to make a career. I am prepared to wait and see but this thread is about what awaits us when Andy comes to life?


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he has the potential to be a real threat for any team in the world on his day. just needs a few more under his belt and things will come together nicely.

i don't understand how people can lose patience with him after 1 game, 3 sub appearances and 1 goal this year. seems all too fickle to me and i think people forget he didn't really have chance to gel with the side last year through injury. this year theres plenty of new faces so it will take time before him and the players around him get the best out of each other.

he does need to improve and i'm certain he will do. he has the potential to be a quality player. i think a lot fans need to get behind him rather than pile more pressure on him, especially when we've been playing quite well of late. after all we're supposed to have the best fans in the world



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Another Andy Carroll thread.... REALLY??


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I think he does have some pace when he is clear but doesn't have that breaking speed to get away from a defender. He also looks slow at times because he is continually compared to Suarez next to him.

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just reread what i wrote.... i no way do i think he is fast.... just not a slug

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Originally Posted By: want3d
he has the potential to be a real threat for any team in the world on his day. just needs a few more under his belt and things will come together nicely.

i don't understand how people can lose patience with him after 1 game, 3 sub appearances and 1 goal this year. seems all too fickle to me and i think people forget he didn't really have chance to gel with the side last year through injury. this year there's plenty of new faces so it will take time before him and the players around him get the best out of each other.

he does need to improve and i'm certain he will do. he has the potential to be a quality player. i think a lot fans need to get behind him rather than pile more pressure on him, especially when we've been playing quite well of late. after all we're supposed to have the best fans in the world





I think it's easy mate. Patience is there with players who cost the money Ngog has to Bolton. That's what you pay 4,8 even 10 million for nowadays........ potential. Where are all the threads with huge canings for Ngog? No where, because he didn't cost what Carroll did, he tried his best and it didn't ever quite come off.

You don't pay 35 million and then expect people to be patient when you see little more to his game than Ngog.....it is that simple. Especially when the reports are he's a boozer to boot struggling with his attitude as well as everything else. Sorry, someone who has been told a number of times and appears with the latest comments by Capa to have not curtailed it has a pi*s poor attitude.

35 million got Tevez or Aguero. Finished Articles who are top drawer. There are plenty of people who haven't been getting on Carroll's back, just pointed out what is blatantly bloody obvious for any player costing that money- leave his name out of it if it upsets so many.

You put Tevez or Aguero or Rooney alongside Suarez, no one is going to tell me we aren't good enough to be up there in the mix for the top spot this season, not down the road.


The only redemption here is 30 goals a season.

Thing is, most of it should be criticism to whoever sanctioned the insanity of the transfer in the first place not Carroll himself.


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