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We still need: RM, CB, backup DM.
Then we'll be rocking the house. a CB? really we 5 pretty good ones! and you say backup DM which i disagree with, for 2 reasons; 1, we have coady and although he is young he shows a lot of potential and we should try and use him before spending more money on CMs and although i like lucas and the lad couldn't have done more improving over the last year or so, if we were to spend money on a DM we should sign a top class 1 and have lucas as back-up. Yes, a CB. I've written about it at length already over the past few days. Skrtel worries just about everyone, except opposing attackers. Agger is injury-prone. Carra is getting on, and he either hoofs it too much or makes mistakes when he tries not to (eg Bolton's goal). Kelly is pretty much first pick RB. Wilson heavily inexperienced. Coates unproven. The point is that every one of our CBs has something we'd rather not read about them having. Ergo, if we're serious about winning the title we need to have at least one guy who does not have such an obvious weakness, even if Coates really shines this season when given the opportunity. After all, we're hoping to be playing in the CL next season, and that additional fixture list burden really tests the depth of a squad more than the strength of one's first picks. Backup DM. I do not think that Spearing is all that, certainly not as a lone DM. Hopefully he will continue to progress at least at the rate Lucas has, and that he will prove me wrong when he inevitably takes the field. Coady I have no problem with except that he's really young and won't feature much right now. I'm really not comfortable without Lucas there - so we should either get an older, experienced cover for him, or replace him outright, and I think the latter is neither necessary nor desirable.
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We still need: RM, CB, backup DM.
Then we'll be rocking the house. a CB? really we 5 pretty good ones! and you say backup DM which i disagree with, for 2 reasons; 1, we have coady and although he is young he shows a lot of potential and we should try and use him before spending more money on CMs and although i like lucas and the lad couldn't have done more improving over the last year or so, if we were to spend money on a DM we should sign a top class 1 and have lucas as back-up. Yes, a CB. I've written about it at length already over the past few days. Skrtel worries just about everyone, except opposing attackers. Agger is injury-prone. Carra is getting on, and he either hoofs it too much or makes mistakes when he tries not to (eg Bolton's goal). Kelly is pretty much first pick RB. Wilson heavily inexperienced. Coates unproven. The point is that every one of our CBs has something we'd rather not read about them having. Ergo, if we're serious about winning the title we need to have at least one guy who does not have such an obvious weakness, even if Coates really shines this season when given the opportunity. After all, we're hoping to be playing in the CL next season, and that additional fixture list burden really tests the depth of a squad more than the strength of one's first picks. Backup DM. I do not think that Spearing is all that, certainly not as a lone DM. Hopefully he will continue to progress at least at the rate Lucas has, and that he will prove me wrong when he inevitably takes the field. Coady I have no problem with except that he's really young and won't feature much right now. I'm really not comfortable without Lucas there - so we should either get an older, experienced cover for him, or replace him outright, and I think the latter is neither necessary nor desirable. oh, you want to replace a CB or 2 i thought you were saying lets just sign another 1 which would makes no sense. i agree with you about skrtel, don't like him at all. i've said a few times we should sell him and sign cahill or subotic, i dont wanna temp fate, but i have a feeling about agger i think his injury problems are behind him.
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oh, you want to replace a CB or 2 i thought you were saying lets just sign another 1 which would makes no sense. i agree with you about skrtel, don't like him at all. i've said a few times we should sell him and sign cahill or subotic, i dont wanna temp fate, but i have a feeling about agger i think his injury problems are behind him. If one can see Coates as replacement for Kyrgiakos, then all we need is a replacement for Skrtel. I think Carra is still worth his place based on his command of the back 4, and how much he will help the younger players coming through. But we need that extra ounce of quality, I feel. You're right though. Just *adding* another CB won't work - it's gotta be a swap. I'm hoping Agger can be managed carefully given that we're out of Europe. One game a week should not be too much for him to handle, I hope. He's the best we have, after all...
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Ever the sceptic hey Two to start a thread like this!
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yes the club have done great business by recouping money , but this net over gross spend is not right , the club have still paid out on player over 100 million on new players , and what ever the club brings back in still doesnt change that , this was the debate over benitez's spending going on about net spend when it is gross spend which is the issue IE if you spend £20 pound in the shop on something and get home and find a fiver down the side of the couch you have still spent £20 not £15 even though you have gained a fiver , i think the club comolli in particular have been great in there dealings but its about gross outlay not net intake .
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Have to agree there faz. I really dislike net spend and how fans go on and on about it. End of the day, the club has spent x amount of money on players.
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Have to agree there faz. I really dislike net spend and how fans go on and on about it. End of the day, the club has spent x amount of money on players. spot on mate !!!
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reinvesting profits as it essentialy is is key to any buisness.shrewed dealings..even whealer dealing like with stocks and shares.
what cannot be ignored though is much as that is apreciated what will happen when there is no 50m player sale or no spare revenue from advertising etc.running a tight ship id fine but if there is an unexpected storm will they be prepared to bale out the water.also the less of their own money used says there is nothing for them to lose.ie.should they try to sell lfc now they would want at least 300m i expect..100m more than they paid.not bad for a years work.
undoubtably they are not bad owners at all.hopefully they will become great owners but itd early days still.comoli has realy earned his corn though.he is good despite the scepticism from fans about him at lfc,myself included.
whether kenny has utilised the money wisely is another matter.it was crucial to do so.i say hes been 50 50 with his transfers to date.half good and half poor.
nesv would of been lynched anyway if they tried to pocket player sales..theyd of got the same hostility as hicks did.
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Have to agree there faz. I really dislike net spend and how fans go on and on about it. End of the day, the club has spent x amount of money on players. spot on mate !!! To an extent I agree, but it is a bit too simple a model. The owners have been fantastic and do in fact have a sizeable net spend already so it can't be criticised regardless of whether we take net spend into account or not. But to build a title winning team, net investment is important. It is what hampered benitez, as having to sell some of your good players in order to bring better ones in all the time means you can't build a strong squad and have to fill in the gaps with frees such as degen and cheap buys such as n'gog. Net spen IS important, it has to be there in order to build a strong squad, but these owners are investing, not just just re-investing, so all is well.
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[quote=two]Read in the echo comoli said the plan was always to spend first and then recoup by clearing out surplus and trimming wage bill and that the owners were brave to accept and go with this plan of his.very impressed with comolis logic there and hes done that,irespective of the rights and wrongs of kennys buys.
On analysing the figures now i see that means then that out of the 110m outlay 96m at least has been recouped if we are to believe that 30m saved in wage bill plus 17m for ngog ,mierless,poulsen.
that leaves net spend 14m.peanuts.
when you say we save 30 mil on wages your forgetting they had to pay of there contracts (jova,degan and so on ) be lucky if we save half of that
plus we have 7 new players on the wage bill dont forget
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