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Hello Fellow Reds,

Been reading some worrying posts on here from some regarding the running of the club, prices paid for players, players sold etc.

You wonder if any of the so-called LFC fans coming out with negative barbs actually understand anything about football and our team.

Like many I've had some reservation on player choices but obviously will keep the faith. KK knows the score better than most if not everybody.

The Andy Carroll saga is never ending. 35m flop this, 35m flop that.....

Point that people miss is that we were never gonna add 5m to that price tag and buy an Aguero or Sanchez. Its all about wages.

Granted, AC cost 35m but he is apparently on 65K a week.

Other players out there costing that fee are getting paid 180-200K a week by their clubs! Once that is factored into the fee there is no way you can look at it as an expensive deal in reality!

Players like Hendo, Adam, Enrique, Downing will all give quality service with MOST importantly, value for WAGES.

Not sure who would be the highest earner out of those but just can't see anyone earning more than 70K a week out of that if AC is on 65K.

We have just heard that the offloading of all the dead wood (Jovanovic, Aqualani, Cole et al) will apparently save us 30m in wages this season.

That is phenomenal work by the club. Some say we are left short with cover to a degree. I'm happy with the squad and trust the youngsters we have to come in if we end up with an injury crisis.

Its amazing work that LFC are doing. Definitely a Champs League in the offing, a vibrant squad, harmony at last in the boardroom. Its all good people!!!

So, next time people want to complain (Namely that knobber: Two), then just be thankful of our new direction cos we so easily could have slipped into being the Everton of a few years ago.

YNWA

Agree with most of the first post. Very easy to be short sighted but I think we are heading in the right direction

The general consensus is that we are edging towards a better run club off the field and better performances on the pitch from the players.

Unfortunately the Carroll price tag will never be far from a conversation topic itself. But like I said most fans come on here to discuss and share their views and opinions on all things Liverpool and they have a right too Well some may go OTT but most have the common sense to know that we are inching towards a better future.

Bohey1,

Have to agree in the most part. I think as we did little business early on a lot of us were guilty of talking some tosh but it was just frustration.

Now it's been a couple of days and we have actually seen the complete in and out details I think the business Kenny and Como have done has been outstanding.

They have basically cleared out all the players that were never going to make the grade whilst understanding a few that haven't really proven themselves totally, yet still could, and have to be kept on in a 'squad game'.

If it means we are going to be bare bones but a strong 11 for the remainder of the year and a few quid back in the pot to add in highest quality when we can I suppose it is the best longer term strategy.

I have to admit I don't understand every move sanctioned but then I'm not Kenny Dalglish.

We are definitely a far fitter animal than we were a few short months ago that's for sure.

Well then,you call me a knob without response from a mod and flames gets shirty with me for using the term girls in a humerous manner...something not right there!!
but heyho...
The problem is you see is that it matters not so much in the fee paid for carrol,thats not his doing,it is in the assumption that he was good enough in the first place.if hed of been say 15m his true value based on one season in the championship and 18 games in the premier league plus the fact he was a long term injury candidate then by all means take a punt on him...if hes 100m fine go for it if you think hes worth it..if its evident he isnt ...and its clear hes no 35m player...then rightfuly questions will be asked as to why the manager blew 35m on a player who alot of fans would not want in their team in the first place.then add 20m for untried unproven unheard of henderson and 20m for downing that has spent his best years showing how mediocre he is..and i see people saying mierless at 28 is past it,helloooo downing is 28.and then 8m for adam to become the heartbeat of lfc..and is it any wonder you get myself and others questioning the logic of them 4 irespective of how much they cost but the fact they werent cheap just adds to it.
kenny is known for a few madcap signings among his good buys.carter speedie being some from his last tenure plus too many to mention jn his time at newcastle and celtic. I wonder if kenny bought carrol on the advice of his friend alan shearer.

He is entitled to have a different opinion without getting abuse,i dont agree with his comments but its there to be debated,without resorting to insults.

I am a clueless fan

-1.

Two,

APologies for the insult. Don't know whether you're going for the 'Adrian Durham' style of provocative forum posts but the negative direction of the post is what's grating myself and people.

Of course you are entitled to your opinion but just over a year ago we were under H & G and had been dying slowly on and off the pitch for the previous few years.

Now we are solvent, gonna make good profit every season without fail (with capital growing per annum) that can be re-invested and definitely a better and most importantly, balanced playing squad.

The fall back option of moaning about player prices, particularly English ones, is a bit pointless.

English has always been a premium. Its been that way for years now. Andy Carroll is only a little over priced. Not loads.

Strikers always seem to cost the most out of all position types because they provide the most important commodity..... goals!

So Andy C at 22 years of age, with the potential to be a new Alan Shearer (KK's view), then is it any wonder the price is so high? And the fact we needed another striker after losing Torres so late on.

Its actually commendable that the club spent that much to keep us all happy! Imagine going the rest of the season without the the purchase? We would have been rioting on the boards with moaning people that say we don't spend.

A luxury to some..... Appeasement to others..... Good investment to some....... It ticks a lot of boxes but at least the club did something! Look at Spurs at the moment. They are a joke going nowhere!

Phil Jones 17m? Good player but its just the prices we pay now. We all know there are no guarantees so think that you need to chill out on the pessimism and enjoy the fact that we have spent big money on good players, just beaten Arse away for the first time in ages and are well up there in the league!

Just a last thing...... The over inflation of prices paid I would imagine you are alluding to people such as Downing, Hendo (20m each) and Carroll (35m) as the main source of your gripes about paying far too much. Would that be fair?

If so, going back to my first point and taking into account realistic wages that we would pay people, even the top stars at LFC (so lets say 80-100K) WHO in world football could we have bought that is better than those three and would give us the value for money you emphasise all the time?

YNWA

Lucky you cause I'm a plum.But in all seriousness as long as people aren't insulting others with say racist and peodo insults then its all good fun.