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Originally Posted By: mybloodisred
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I see your points, and am not going to argue further over them. In truth, perhaps some of the stuff I wrote in that post was not actually directed at the one I quoted - more your follow up to bigredkop's post considering he's added entirely too little to the discussion for someone to have played such a major part in it.

The "bigger club" idea gets bandied about quite a bit, and most people have their own particular interpretation of what it means. For example, I do not feel that Chelsea is a "bigger" club, because they have a smaller fan-base, and have not been more successful than Liverpool even in the last ten years outside actually winning the league. "Bigger" does not equate with "has a larger transfer budget". After all, they ran at a 70m pound loss last year, PRIOR to spending another 70m in the January window.

I can see how some players might view Chelsea as a better destination at present, but that might no longer be true at the end of the season. And the topic clearly states "next year". Suarez might have been looking for a way out of Ajax, but that doesn't imply he'll be looking for a way out of Liverpool.


I absolutely whole heartedly agree that if we were to really look at who are the bigger club, Liverpool would come out on top. It was just to save people having to read an extended version of my all ready probably needlessly long posts that I used a very simple bigger=perceived ability to win more trophies, buy better players, pay higher wages model as for most footballers these days, that is what seems to matter most. But as you say, there is more to that if we were to really delve into who is the bigger club but I wasn't trying to do that.

Again, true that just because he wanted to leave ajax doesn't mean he will want to leave liveprool, one doesn't necesarily imply the other. And yes next year who knows where teams will be finishing, but Chelsea still look the more attractive club right now to the rest of the world, and I can't base my argument on what might happen. Should Liverpool finish far above chelsea and heavily invest again, I would certainly reassess who was the more attractive destination.

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This thread should never have been started, stupid thread which was then made worse by bigredkop and mybloodisred


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Originally Posted By: mybloodisred
And yes next year who knows where teams will be finishing, but Chelsea still look the more attractive club right now to the rest of the world, and I can't base my argument on what might happen. Should Liverpool finish far above chelsea and heavily invest again, I would certainly reassess who was the more attractive destination.


This is my point, after all. Even if Chelsea finish 3rd and Liverpool 4th, there is insufficient reason outside greed for a player to leave us. It's not a safe assumption he will jump - far from it. Far enough that I found it laughable. Perhaps that was wrong of me?

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I actually happen to agree with you that it isn't a safe assumption that he would want to move to chelsea. I don't think it is quite as farfetched as you do, but that is just my opinion.

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Originally Posted By: bigredkop
One point you have put well though, truly a diamond in the rough of your post of attacking people by putting words in their mouth and isolating small points, expanding upon them just to try and win an argument (as someone described perfectly), is that I may perhaps be too willing to tar suarez with the same brush as many other players who move for perceived more immediate glory.


And I was top debater about 25 years ago. Old habits die hard, I guess. I suppose I was mainly upset about being labelled "unintelligent" especially since even you now see that your opinion is based more on gut feel than fact. Perhaps you'd still win that bet about Suarez leaving. I just think it's rather too early to be so sure...

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So has Suarez joined Chelsea or what?


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