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i am not knocking carroll, i support him till the cows come home,
if given the choice, swap carroll for torres, i wud do it.
but i no the above is not going to happen, so carroll has my full support.
i will judge players wen they have at least played 20 games in one season.
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carroll is a very young player still who will improve and torres has been dire for a long time now not just at liverpool but chelsea and spain aswell so really why would anyone want his huffing and puffing back in the squad ?
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he will never be the same. no thanks
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he will never be the same. no thanks plus all his nasty mouthing off to go along with his poor play i agree no thanks .
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Bar Lennon said
As for everyone jumping on the 'bash Andy Carroll' bandwagon, can I just say i'm absolutely disgusted. There will come a time when judgement should be passed on him - and all of the other players - but that time is nowhere even close. I'm not just saying, this, I actually mean it - people should actually be ashamed of themselves for constantly knocking this lad. Yes, he hasn't looked the height of sharpness so far this season. We're 4 games into the season though. In those 4 games he's started 3, scored 1, and had another goal (in my opinion, harshly) disallowed. Playing crap or not, looking sharp or not, if he can keep that ratio up for the season, i'll be happy. Give the lad a f*cking chance, and stop moaning about how sh*te he is.
Not ashamed at all mate, Carroll has played in all of the pre season games as well so should be sharp both mentally and Physically, at present he doesn`t look like he knows what he`s doing. I do not want a player in my team who plays crap for 89.9 minutes and scores a goal every 3 games, that is not LFC standard.!!! better to have a player who never scores but assists for 89 minutes per game.
Stop spouting the same old crap as the sheep, we all hope he improves (He has too) but so far he has done nothing.
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I would take torres back for that kind of money in a heart beat, he is steadily getting sharper and getting over his bad couple of years and him and suarez up front would strike fear into every team we played whenever they started together, people just seeing them side by side on a team sheet would already be on the back foot against us because due to there mental state of... OMG!
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He is getting sharper? lol? I watched all pl games so far and I tell you, he is the same torres that was a liverpool player in the last season, can't pass a player, frustrated, getting booked. Its funny because the media is covering his drought up by saying oh wow torres was great today just ashame he didint score, wow he looked very sharp but reality he was like that in liverpool in his last season and what did the media say then? torres looks unhappy, he is not mentally stable or whatever blablbla, u get the trick. He will never be back to his old self.
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Not gonna happen. I reckon he left a lot of the current squad with a bad taste in their mouths, so I'd imagine him returning could upset the harmony of the dressing room. This is the lad who abandoned ship when the ship had sunk as low as it could, and was finally on it's way back up. Someone also made a valid point about his wages. We wouldn't be able to match the huge pay hike he'd have got to go to Chelsea, and Chelsea would never sell him back to us. He's theirs now. I reckon he'll turn things around this season, tbh.
As for everyone jumping on the 'bash Andy Carroll' bandwagon, can I just say i'm absolutely disgusted. There will come a time when judgement should be passed on him - and all of the other players - but that time is nowhere even close. I'm not just saying, this, I actually mean it - people should actually be ashamed of themselves for constantly knocking this lad. Yes, he hasn't looked the height of sharpness so far this season. We're 4 games into the season though. In those 4 games he's started 3, scored 1, and had another goal (in my opinion, harshly) disallowed. Playing crap or not, looking sharp or not, if he can keep that ratio up for the season, i'll be happy. Give the lad a f*cking chance, and stop moaning about how sh*te he is.
Torres is the past, and Carroll is the future. Get used to it, lads. spot on barry.
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Not ashamed at all mate, Carroll has played in all of the pre season games as well so should be sharp both mentally and Physically, at present he doesn`t look like he knows what he`s doing. I do not want a player in my team who plays crap for 89.9 minutes and scores a goal every 3 games, that is not LFC standard.!!! better to have a player who never scores but assists for 89 minutes per game.
Stop spouting the same old crap as the sheep, we all hope he improves (He has too) but so far he has done nothing.
Are you actually calling ME a sheep?! I can only assume you're trying to be ironic - either that or i've credited you with too much intelligence. Unlike a lot of others, i'm no bandwagon jumper. I make up my own mind about players - and I base it on common sense. You say you hope he improves but here you are slagging him off. He's scored 3 goals for us so far - which is 3 times as many as Torres has for Chelsea, and Carroll has done that in about half as many games. I don't see many Chelsea fans slaughtering Torres regardless of this. And these are the 'plastic' fans, and we're LFC - a club with fans who will supposedly always support whoever pulls on that Red shirt. I count myself in that, but there are people who are liars if they try to say they do the same. As I said, there will come a time to judge Andy Carroll. Having spent 5 months with us last season - for most of which he was injured, and then returning from injury, and with the rest of which has consisted of a season which is 4 games old, that judgement time is nowhere even close.
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'If there is hope, it lies in the proles'
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we do have to move on from past players. Carroll is the future and he does have to up his game in my view. At least we have partnerships whichh are working(Kuyt/Suarez and Suarez/Raul))and therefore the burden on Carroll is less than that on the chelsea forward line which looks totally disfunctional.
Carroll is only 22 and will be useful to the team this season, His best years are certainly ahead whereas Torres's look behind him.
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