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but your an old school football fan not a modern 1, you should nt be worrying your little head about the money and the balance sheets. i am not not one bit just stating a fact ,
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Will Liverpool Football Club be able to attract big name footballers if we win the League CUP 6 time in the next 10 years and don't qualify for the Champions League?
Don't get me wrong, I want LFC to win as many trophies as possible but there needs to be priorities. With the stage of where LFC is at the moment, it's important for us to be able to attract the best footballers available and those best footballers want to play in the biggest club tournament in the world (IMO), the Champions League. As we aren't playing European football at the moment, I believe we now have a squad big enough to be able to strongly compete in all domestic cups and qualify for the CL so none of the competitions we are playing in should be taken lightly. I say we play our best team available given the opposition we are playing that allows to get the positive results we need!
I would be very disappointed if we didn't qualify for the CL or win at least one domestic cup this season because we finally ahve the depth to achieve that. League Cup that should have said!
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I think priority is the final league position for the season. Qualifying for Champions League must be the top of the agenda for this season at least. If Liverpool can do that , then it will be the EPL title for the more higher target the subsequent seasons. Either of the domestic cups would be a bonus. The reason why Champions League qualification should be targetted is due to the fact that this competition will provide Liverpool with at least 2 advantages. Extra cash and extra pulling power for top class players. Not all top class players have the desire like Luis Suarez who loves to build from scratch and grow in stature with the club. Many top class players just wants to play for a club who are already up there in recognition. If we were in Champions League instead of Scums , would you think Ashley Young and Phil Jones would picked them instead of us when they transfer from their previous clubs?
Domestic Cups are important but priority should be given to league positions especially qualifications to the Champions League as it will make more people recognised that Liverpool are back with the big boys and it's time other clubs take Liverpool Football Club seriously when they face us and not make any more mockery of us. Would be a bonus if we can get League Cup or an FA Cup this season.
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Who says we have to chose? I think a cup run would give us a great boost of confidence to help us in our league matches and it would give us a chance to give our better fringe players some game time. We are not a small club like Birmingham that will stretch a tiny squad too thin and crash miserably. We have real depth, and a cup run would be a great way to utilize that. Getting matches and wins under our more inexperienced players' belts will help them, and winning trophies will help us keep and attract players of Suarez's caliber.
Yes, CL football is necessary, but it is not enough. Arsenal is losing their players because they aren't winning silverware, plain and simple, even though they have remaining in the CL for years. In contrast, City have gotten a major bost winning the FA cup, and that has become a major part of their drawing power, not just their bags of money. If we want to succeed, we need both. We are LFC, and we are more than capable of attaining both. Settling for only attempting one or the other is a loser attitude that we do not need. spot on arsenal are a good example play in the CL every season stable manager and club big ground , but dont win nothing there best players leave . if those players won the league cup every season they would still want to move. none of the top top players really care abt winning the micky mouse cup. What about the FA Cup? Last time I checked that was a domestic cup.
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I think people should live in the real world and look at the long term success of the club as opposed to being a short sighted magpie fun who just wants something shiny. Winning a league cup is nice, but it doesn't necessarily breed success as birmingham has shown, and Portsmouth too with the FA cup. Finishing fourth is far more important, not just for finance, but for showing the world liverpool are one of the big boys again, keeping players like suarez happy, and making ourselves an attractive option for top players again, so we don't have to tempt them with more money. That is fairly obvious. I agree that our league position is important, but I also still think that winning silverware is important. Just champions league football every season is not success. Again, look at Arsenal. They've been contenders every year, but is that successful? All their players are leaving, and there goes their chances of ever taking the league. The same will happen to us if we make CL but never win anything. But just winning a league cup or an F.A. Cup. To become the giant we once were again, a top 4 finish and silverware need to happen. Not either or. We need both.
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neither is getting to semi final , liverpool honours list does not have 4th place or finals or semi finals on it just trophies won , and thats what Liverpool Football Club is about winning trophies not finishing 4th and the exeter game was a breath of fresh air as this nonsense mentality of the league cup is worthless is just nonsense and just shows the mentality of the modern football supporter brainwashed by previous managers to dismiss the domestic cups . faz you couldn't be more wrong. we could with a bit of luck in the drew win a cup this season as it looks like kenny will take them seriously, but to say winning a cup is even on par with finishing in the top 4 on our list of priorities is idiocy of the highest football thinking. if we don't finish 4th we can't move forward, unless you want us to be a average team fighting with spurs and everton for 6th?
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I have to agree withy fazzy here tbh, far too many supporters think avoiding the carling cup or the fa cup in place of champions league is a good plan, the quest is why can't we gun for both? we have a decent squad going at the moment so I can't see why we cannot target both. Hate some of the fans attitudes towards these cups, its disgusting thinking being in the champions league is more important than winning trophies. Guess what? I'd rather finish 17th and winning fa cup and carling cup, 2 more trophies in the bag, thanks bye.
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Also I think people are being harsh on Faz here. The majority wants champions league football, I think we all want that even faz believe me, but he is just stating winning trophies is more important than being in a competition that we will no way win based on our current squad. As I said earlier, why can't we take one game at a time and target both?
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of course we all wants us to win trophies but to put winning the league cup ahead CL football is ludicrous we can not move forward as a club winning FA and league cups we'll go backwards. as i said with a bit of luck we could win a cup and finish in the top 4 but prioritising a cup is stupid. and finishing 17th and winning a cup rather than get back into the CL  i think it must be bed time over there in new zealand because that the stupidest thing i've ever seen you say, snake.
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booo success is not having a nob rot for a manager aiming for 18th spot i would be happy with 4th- don't get the rationale of this thread - i agree that we have to win matches but 4th spot is good - its about momentum we have been in the doldrums too long the point of this thread is winning cup is what it all about not finishing 4th like some think and previous managers i mean managers not manager So you're saying you would prefer to win the league cup and come 5th in the league, rather than not win it and come 4th - with all that 4th spot means - cl football and all the money and prestige it brings to the club?
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