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#147120 16/08/11 02:20 PM
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Lads it makes me cringe when i see this clown on monday night soccer, he has,nt got a clue and when he has to cover a liverpool match im just gonna picture the shiit he gonna splurt out of his rat face mouth, i would love if all the liverpool fan could come up with a song about rat face and sing it at anfield for the whole 90 minutes of the game that he,s covering us on and just see he,s face at half and at full time when the camera go,s to him for his comments, what do ye think....


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Personally i'd rather we sang songs about our own players than anyone who plays (or played) for other clubs. Leave the patheticness to the Mancs. They're more interested in slagging off other teams than supporting their own. We're better than that.


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To be honhest I cant see the issue. He's comes across well on the tv and has certainly achieved a lot more in the game than Andy Gray ever did. People need to forget the bias towards him being a former United player.


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I thought he came across a bit nervous on TV and still needs a bit of confidence with the editing tools but he does ok. The best thing for me is that we all know ho much he hates Liverpool yet he has to come across as unbiased. A couple of times recently he has had quite a bit of praise for Kenny, Suarez, Adam, Carragher....that must kill him!!!! :-)

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Originally Posted By: murph75
To be honhest I cant see the issue. He's comes across well on the tv and has certainly achieved a lot more in the game than Andy Gray ever did. People need to forget the bias towards him being a former United player.


Not to mention that Gray was an ex-Bitter - and when it came to Everton and Liverpool he always let his bias show.


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Originally Posted By: BarLennon
Originally Posted By: murph75
To be honhest I cant see the issue. He's comes across well on the tv and has certainly achieved a lot more in the game than Andy Gray ever did. People need to forget the bias towards him being a former United player.


Not to mention that Gray was an ex-Bitter - and when it came to Everton and Liverpool he always let his bias show.


Sorry, but that's just rubbish. Gray always gave credit where it was due and had plenty of good to say about the club, and plenty of bad to say about hicks & gillet. Hate him as much as you like but at least let it be for the right reasons.

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Originally Posted By: CarheeX
Originally Posted By: BarLennon
Originally Posted By: murph75
To be honhest I cant see the issue. He's comes across well on the tv and has certainly achieved a lot more in the game than Andy Gray ever did. People need to forget the bias towards him being a former United player.


Not to mention that Gray was an ex-Bitter - and when it came to Everton and Liverpool he always let his bias show.


Sorry, but that's just rubbish. Gray always gave credit where it was due and had plenty of good to say about the club, and plenty of bad to say about hicks & gillet. Hate him as much as you like but at least let it be for the right reasons.


Firstly, I never claimed to "hate" Gray. Think before you misquote someone - there's enough idiots around here who constantly do that, as it is. I actually loved Andy Gray as a pundit and was really disappointed when he was sacked. In my post "always" was an exaggeration, admittedly - but without a doubt during matches he showed his bias on countless occasions with his reactions - especially in Merseyside derbies. By all means have your own opinion on that, but i've seen far too many occasions of it over the years for anything you say to change that opinion.

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Fair enough, we'll agree to disagree.

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Originally Posted By: BarLennon
Originally Posted By: CarheeX
Originally Posted By: BarLennon
Originally Posted By: murph75
To be honhest I cant see the issue. He's comes across well on the tv and has certainly achieved a lot more in the game than Andy Gray ever did. People need to forget the bias towards him being a former United player.


Not to mention that Gray was an ex-Bitter - and when it came to Everton and Liverpool he always let his bias show.


Sorry, but that's just rubbish. Gray always gave credit where it was due and had plenty of good to say about the club, and plenty of bad to say about hicks & gillet. Hate him as much as you like but at least let it be for the right reasons.


Firstly, I never claimed to "hate" Gray. Think before you misquote someone - there's enough idiots around here who constantly do that, as it is. I actually loved Andy Gray as a pundit and was really disappointed when he was sacked. In my post "always" was an exaggeration, admittedly - but without a doubt during matches he showed his bias on countless occasions with his reactions - especially in Merseyside derbies. By all means have your own opinion on that, but i've seen far too many occasions of it over the years for anything you say to change that opinion.


Gray was the source of so many untruths about LFC and you should not forget it. Remember the Rafa rotation which was not as bad as Fergie's when looked into or the zonal marking obsession, Liverpool conceeded fewer set pieces than anyone at one stage. Finally the negative approach about the team which again was disproven, man was an ass!

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spot on cp1972

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