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well stuey i will ask you again going by your figures is spending 14m a season enough for a club like liverpool. i personally think it is not near enough compared to other teams
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The deficit averages at 14m a season, not his spending. His spending averages 50m a season.
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How are we supposed to be improve the team if Rafa is not given money to spend Ged?
he has had his chance, why give a manager who will be gone in the summer our next mamagers transfer kitty in January? just does'nt make sense, all you fans will be moaning that the new manager has not got enough funds.
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Well a bigger tansfer kitty than this year...hmmm, well Rafa made a profit this year, so a bigger transfer kitty would be 0. Great.
Also gedthered, I know you want to insult Rafa at every opportunity, but I don't think your post was really on topic. It's about the club having more transfer money, not about whic manager gets to spend it, or whether rafa is bad.
You're also boring me. Because you post the same "incompetent fool" on almost every thread. Have an original thought for once, and stop boring us all.
Also, just start a thread where you can bash Rafa, at least then you can post on topic. but your boring me by backing a manager who is clearly not up to the job in hand
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stuey your a cock, you need to get a life , find something better to do then sitting on the net all day slagging off our team like a junior manc fan, faggot Whilst i rarely make little sense of Stuey's constant criticism I don't agree with personal attacks like this!! We don't need this sort of stuff on here!!!
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Total Buys 210,425,000
Total Sales 139,730,000
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Therefore he has only spent 70,695,000!!! Equals 14,139,000 per season!!
If you think this means he has been backed you're kidding yourself!!!
FACT...net spend is what goes on the books!!
He has had to sell to try and balance the books otherwise he gets given pittence to spend!!!
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(sold him for a very tidy profit too despite him only playing well for 2 out of his 5 seasons, the other 3 he was awful) Selling Alonso can never be classed as making a profit. He was the key to our play last season. Had we kept hold of him, we at least had a shot at the title. This is not profit, just the yanks gettin their pockets lined again. Would you have been happy had Alonso been sold in the summer of 08 and Barry bought in? I know I would because for the previous 2 seasons Alonso was cr@p. Yes he was our best, or one of them, last year but who's to say he wouldn't have gone back to being rubbish again and then Rafa would have been a fool for not selling him?
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no stuey using your figures he has spent an average of 14m a season so once again i will ask you is that enough for a club like liverpool to spend. or are you going to avoid my question for a thrid time
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I totally agree...Rafa has NOT been backed by the owners so far.... NOT BEEN BACKED ??? Can you back this up ? I think he has been backed, and i will back this up.. Rafa has spent £215,425,000.. That is 2 hundred and fifteen million four hundred and twenty five thousand pounds. Had he have bought Villa, that would be a quarter of a billion pounds. ONE QUARTER OF A BILLION. Torres £24,000,000 Johnson £17,500,000 Aquilani £20,000,000 Keane £19,000,000 Babel £11,500,000 Alonso £10,750,000 Kuyt £9,000,000 Riera £8,000,000 Dossena £8,000,000 Crouch £7,000,000 Lucas £6,750,000 Pennant £6,700,000 Skirtel £6,500,000 Bellamy £6,000,000 Garcia £6,000,000 Reina £6,000,000 Agger £5,800,000 Sissoko £5,600,000 Morientes £5,500,000 Benayoun £5,000,000 Cavalieri £4,000,000 Arbeloa £2,600,000 Leto £2,500,000 Josemi £2,000,000 Paletta £2,000,000 Ngog £1,500,000 Kyrgiakos £1,500,000 Gonzales £1,500,000 Carson £750,000 Mikel San Jose £270,000 Martin £250,000 Barragan £240,000 Idrizaj £190,000 Jack Hobbs £150,000 Cooper £100,000 Kacanaklic £75,000 RAFA OUT [oops]! Rafa In, Stuey OUT! Listen mate, maybe you not aware how money works, if you think that is the amount of money spend on the purchase, than you are way off the mark! 1stly, the torres deal didnt include the full amount at once, the aqulani deal too, did not include the full amount at once. when we sold alonso, it also has terms a bonus payments and other clauses. SO to think this was the NEtt amount out of the club, is folly! 2ndly when we say he has not been backed, we mean he has nto got the luxury of buying and scouring the market for teh players he wants, he has been restricted. If i give you 30million, i tell you you can go and strengthen, you head you need 5 players, what are you going to do? you Need 1 striker, 1 winger and two defenders?? The quality the fans expect are teh Jhonson and Lennon quality wingers, so you are now left with 12 million, you got buy a striker and defender, so you start going to the sale, to the crap players, like josemi, nunez etc. You also got take into account, Nunez came foor free with the owen sale, because Owne had only two years left on his contract! Josemi was a budget buy. And many of teh players you mention, i think it would be fair if you put in the fee Rafa sold teh palyers for. Yea. He has been backed, but not the way he should be backed. another point to bring up, Rafa had a budget this year, he chose to extend the contracts of teh players he has, becasue if he didnt, those players contracts run down and you end up loosing the player for a smaller fee thn should be. So no we are secure, with Reina, Torres, Masherano, etc. I think should anyone want torres, 80 million would be the fee we can demand. So back to the same thing, what you do stuey, is you look to win a argument and fell important, instead of looking at the whole picture. You are hell bent on sacking RAFA, and saying he doesnt know what he doing, and all you see are the negatives. Im not denying he hasnt bought crap players, and im not blaming him for all the failures either. I eman lets take dossena for example, had a glorius reputation, had the international call ups, was teh best performer in italy, in defensive role. his CV looked good, he performed! Rafa buys him based on this, it doesnt work out, you cant blame the coach, he acted on all the right information! Sometimes you gotta accept that life will never be the way you want it to be.
The sea, will be the sea, whatever the drops philosophy!
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I eman lets take dossena for example, had a glorius reputation, had the international call ups, was teh best performer in italy, in defensive role. his CV looked good, he performed! Rafa buys him based on this, it doesnt work out, you cant blame the coach, he acted on all the right information! Sometimes you gotta accept that life will never be the way you want it to be.
Any manager that spends 8m on a player, based purely on reputation needs to be sacked anyway... you dont agree with that? A player should be scouted, watched, interviewed and investigated before spending masses of money on him. Then you learn his strenghts/weaknesses and build an overall picture of the man. Then you dont end up buying Babel the rapper.
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