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if the government really gave a sh*t about poorer communites, and really tried to put them back on the road to recovery, we wouldnt have this problem. but they are too busy handing it to people who already have sh*t loads of money. its like the 3rd world. if there's no third world, then there is no first world. so it is in super powers interested to keep the strata the way it is. these people do what they do because they dont value anything. why? because they live in society where they are not valued. they are shat on by the government and by the rest of society.

hit the dog enough times....

Still no need to loot the locals business tho! one of them being a party shop! that's hardly a huge chain store money making is it,you cant justify violence towards locals,including burning people to death in there own homes! or very nearly!

sorry but i can't agree with that. as much as i despise the actions of these people handing over more control to the police ain't the solution. we're already on the verge of a "george orwell society" and can't afford handing over anymore of our freedom.

as emp and flames said, this has been coming for a long time and this is probably only the beginning of what's to come. i don't agree with it though, there are much better ways (peaceful ways) that you can stand up to the criminals in charge of government and banks.

it's very important that people wake up and realise that that's the truth.

I dont mean give police more powers to do what they like on an everyday basis but in these situations just standing there pulling a face of oh dear you naughty people aint gonna cut the mustard with these people! first priority has to be the innocent public,this is a society problem that starts way back but these riots are nothing to do with the poor people,they all wear designer gear!!! its to do with thugs taking the [oops] cos they can! and worst of all to the detriment of local law abiding people,theres no excuse for burning and looting peoples homes. and did anyone see the guy who was injured? he was robbed by the rioters,thats evil!

These riots aren't the result of people trying to get a point across. Don't be stupid and blind, the original protest in london had a point, then so to maybe those who took the wrong step into descent that night. But now this is mindless thugary with no political intent and no feeling of being wrong. It is pathetic stupidity at its worst.

There is only 2 parties that will win the election in the next few years and whilst they differ slightly there is only one way to run a successful country at the moment with the global economy the way it is, it is the relatively small decisions that our vote has an effect on.

This media controlled by the government nonsense is just pure bullsh!t. I'm not even engaging in discussion with it, read a newspaper and you would see the papers each have their own agenda and are not beholden to a political party. Even the mail criticises the tories etc, grow up and move away from stupid conspiracies.

The people doing this don't hold the same morals as the majority of the country, and that is not just because they live in a 'poorer community' because there are plenty of poor communities not acting up in stupidity. This is still a minority of people who are mindlessly lawless, no point to their actions. It is just pathetic.

Sorry but this has nothing to do with george orwell society. This isn't oppression of people wanting rights and wanting to be heard. This nothing to do with a big brother society. This is lawless descent by pathetic individuals who are doing it for the sake of it and to see what they can get.

Thats not a riot thats handbags at 6 paces ... I find it hard to come down on either side on this one I know tottenham quite well and the people there are the type (ok major generalisation coming but true in my opinion) that don't want a job even there was one for them which there isnt and prefer to sell drugs and drive their 11 year old beamers around blowing kisses to the police.. I also know that the tottenham police have been accused in the past of stirring it up whether this is true or not I don't know. But the fact there are so many riots in so many different places puts this down to more than just race or twitter faceparty wànkers bored in the summer holidays. I get the impression of england being worse than the 70s when young people decided they were a lost generation. It would be hard to condone these riots cos these to55ers burn vans and houses of locals . I think the looting doesnt really hit the people who are guilty (the financiers-banks traffic wardens etc, maybe not a popular opinion but the poor are paying for the rich who ripped the economy inside out knowing full well that it would crash and crash big time

i wish they would stop attacking small business and attack the tossers that are reasonable for this mess.

this is exactly the kind of events that will lead to an orwellian state.

give more power to the police. bring in the army. that's the solution according to a lot of people. well that's exactly what an orwellian state/big brother society will look like and we're heading in that direction.